All About Vaccines

[achilles]

I heard that LA County is, not sure about the entire state.

As of right now, not the whole state, just LA and possibly a few more counties.

[PaulBullion]

By now, 3.9 billion doses of the various covid vaccines have been administered.

Some people would like to wait until a few more people have tried it before they do.

[Tami]

By now, 3.9 billion doses of the various covid vaccines have been administered.

Some people would like to wait until a few more people have tried it before they do.

That should be a meme.

[babyblob]

On the hold out front. My sister is taking herself, and her two teenage sons to get their first shots today. She is GOP (Not crazy like my aunt) she held off for so long but she said not to get it at this point would be putting the lives of her children in more danger and no parent no matter what party they follow has the right to do that.

[Tami]

On the hold out front. My sister is taking herself, and her two teenage sons to get their first shots today. She is GOP (Not crazy like my aunt) she held off for so long but she said not to get it at this point would be putting the lives of her children in more danger and no parent no matter what party they follow has the right to do that.

Sounds like your sister is one of the smart ones. Glad to hear it.

[Tami]

V.A. Issues Vaccine Mandate for Health Care Workers, a First for a Federal Agency

WASHINGTON — The Department of Veterans Affairs will require 115,000 of its frontline health care workers to be vaccinated against the coronavirus in the next two months, making it the first federal agency to mandate that employees be inoculated, government officials said on Monday.

The move comes as concern is growing that the substantial portion of the population that has not been vaccinated is contributing to the rapid spread of the highly contagious Delta variant. While it was a sharp departure from the Biden administration’s reluctance to embrace mandates, it was part of a broader shift in which New York City, many hospital chains and some private employers are deciding that the time has come to make being vaccinated a requirement.

“I am doing this because it’s the best way to keep our veterans safe, full stop,” Denis McDonough, the secretary of veterans affairs, said in a telephone interview on Monday. The department is one of the largest federal employers and is the biggest integrated health care system in the country.

The mandate will apply to workers who are “the most patient-facing,” Mr. McDonough said, including doctors, dentists, registered nurses, physician assistants and some specialists. Beginning on Wednesday, those health care workers will have eight weeks to get fully vaccinated or face penalties including possible removal, he said.

[babyblob]

Sounds like your sister is one of the smart ones. Glad to hear it.

It took a while. I didnt think she would do it. But her MIL got covid and had it bad. She is in the Hospital on a ventilator right now,.

[Tami]

It took a while. I didnt think she would do it. But her MIL got covid and had it bad. She is in the Hospital on a ventilator right now,.

Oh, sorry to hear. I hope she pulls through.

But yeah, sometimes that is what it takes to change minds, unfortunately.

[Tami]

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- California to require proof of COVID-19 vaccination or weekly testing for all state workers and health care employees.

[anyajenkins]

It seems just bizarre, how do they administer medicine when they seem to... be against medicine??? ESPECIALLY when they are being exposed to the virus more than any other group. Surely self-protection kicks in? Or is this just a hugely minor minor faction? And the press use all five examples they found across millions to up the tension that it's a serious issue?


I just can't. I don't understand how they work in medicine yet cause such dangers by avoiding medicine???

Well, I have a nephew who has a really bad peanut allergy. When he was a baby his pediatrician told his mom to not give him any nut products until 2 and no peanuts until 4 years old. Because ‘science’ said early exposure to nuts was causing the big increase in peanut allergies. Obviously, he ended up allergic to peanuts anyway and only a few months after the allergy was discovered, ‘science’ changed its mind and now said the opposite, late exposure to peanuts caused severe allergies. You’ll probably say, well, science changes with new information, yes it does, but the doctor must have had facts and evidence for their original position and to give guidelines that turned out to be completely wrong. Will they find more evidence and change position again? Maybe, maybe not, but if someone had been hurt by ‘following science’, they might not be so inclined to follow it whole heartedly. (My nephew’s family did get the vaccine, but I could see how they could have gone the opposite direction.)

People in healthcare have seen all the good medicine can do, but have probably seen a lot of medical mistakes or medicines that were supposed to be safe and effective and then turned out not to be. There is probably an element of ‘well I’ve gone this long and didn’t get it yet, or already got it and I was fine’ involved, as well.

[Scott Taylor]

On the hold out front. My sister is taking herself, and her two teenage sons to get their first shots today. She is GOP (Not crazy like my aunt) she held off for so long but she said not to get it at this point would be putting the lives of her children in more danger and no parent no matter what party they follow has the right to do that.

I feel that. My two sisters are still holding out. One of them just became a grandma and they are hanging about with their newborn grandchild a lot. Seems like an awful risk. Hoping my sisters come around soon, put politics aside and just bite the bullet.

[babyblob]

I feel that. My two sisters are still holding out. One of them just became a grandma and they are hanging about with their newborn grandchild a lot. Seems like an awful risk. Hoping my sisters come around soon, put politics aside and just bite the bullet.

I hope so as well. To be safe for her new grandchild and keep the rest of the family safe. I hope it all works out.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

On the hold out front. My sister is taking herself, and her two teenage sons to get their first shots today. She is GOP (Not crazy like my aunt) she held off for so long but she said not to get it at this point would be putting the lives of her children in more danger and no parent no matter what party they follow has the right to do that.

Glad to hear that. The whole business with anti-vaxxers is bizarre. Under normal circumstances, a parent would literally stop a bullet to protect her child, yet are reluctant to safeguard them against an insidious virus with a vaccine that's as safe as they come. I know politics, mistrust of science and disinformation has a lot to do with that reluctance, but, it just doesn't make a lick of sense.

[achilles]

New oral anti-virus drugs for treating Covid after getting it while helping to confer some immunity are all in trials. There are at least three undergoing clinical trials at the moment. They are either one a day or two a day pills depending on the company. Depending on performance, price, and ease of storage and use, these things could be game changers in conjunction with vaccines.

[Tami]

New oral anti-virus drugs for treating Covid after getting it while helping to confer some immunity are all in trials. There are at least three undergoing clinical trials at the moment. They are either one a day or two a day pills depending on the company. Depending on performance, price, and ease of storage and use, these things could be game changers in conjunction with vaccines.

Assuming they don't get politicized like the vaccines are. Any progress in new treatments is welcome news.