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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    So yes there's a difference between what was in the movie and what you cut out and ignored to make your narrative
    I'm sorry I didn't mention the scene where Peter and Ned talk about Captain America after the school plays a PSA featuring him. Clearly that was the most important scene of the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    These movies focus on how awesome being Spider-Man is, and it really robs the character of the stuff that made him work so well for so long. That sense of loss, of trying to rebuild his life after everything goes wrong. It makes the movies seem... vapid...
    Most of FFH was about how Peter being Spider-Man is keeping him from having a normal life and putting his friends in danger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    I'm sorry I didn't mention the scene where Peter and Ned talk about Captain America after the school plays a PSA featuring him. Clearly that was the most important scene of the movie.
    Keep proving my point for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    Most of FFH was about how Peter being Spider-Man is keeping him from having a normal life and putting his friends in danger.
    Peter put his friends in danger because Tony Stark gave him a super deadly weapon.

    As you yourself said...

    Keep proving my point for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Peter put his friends in danger because Tony Stark gave him a super deadly weapon.

    As you yourself said...
    And you keep doing it leaving context out to make your narrative

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    And you keep doing it leaving context out to make your narrative
    Did Tony NOT give Peter a super deadly weapon in FFH? A super deadly weapon that Mysterio wanted? Is that not what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Did Tony NOT give Peter a super deadly weapon in FFH? A super deadly weapon that Mysterio wanted? Is that not what happened?
    Yeah, that was...pretty dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    I question how Ganke somehow makes Miles unique.
    Fat best friend isn't even a unique trope
    ...Are we talking about unique in the entirety of all of fiction? Or something unique to the Spider-Man mythos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Did Tony NOT give Peter a super deadly weapon in FFH? A super deadly weapon that Mysterio wanted? Is that not what happened?
    Keep making my point, you keep ignoring how Peter being Spider-Man in the first place is why he's even dealing with Mysterio, why he even met people like Tony stark.
    And no it wasn't a weapon it's a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    Keep making my point, you keep ignoring how Peter being Spider-Man in the first place is why he's even dealing with Mysterio, why he even met people like Tony stark.
    And no it wasn't a weapon it's a tool.
    You're missing the forest for the trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    You're missing the forest for the trees.
    And you just keep trying to make the movie fit your narrative

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    And you just keep trying to make the movie fit your narrative
    When you're arguing "Tony didn't give Peter a deadly super weapon, he gave him a tool", that says everything that needs to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    When you're arguing "Tony didn't give Peter a deadly super weapon, he gave him a tool", that says everything that needs to be said.
    Because they are a tool, it only matters who uses them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    Keep making my point, you keep ignoring how Peter being Spider-Man in the first place is why he's even dealing with Mysterio, why he even met people like Tony stark.
    And no it wasn't a weapon it's a tool.
    Is it? It seemed that Mysterio pretty much orchestrated events to get EDITH specifically. Would Mysterio even have bothered with Spider-Man if it weren't for Tony Stark giving EDITH to Peter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistah K88 View Post
    Is it? It seemed that Mysterio pretty much orchestrated events to get EDITH specifically. Would Mysterio even have bothered with Spider-Man if it weren't for Tony Stark giving EDITH to Peter?
    Would Peter know Tony Stark or would be interacting with people like Nick Fury if he wasn't Spider-Man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewel Runner View Post
    Because they are a tool, it only matters who uses them.
    It's not real. It's a part of a story. And in the story, it's a weapon. Trying to make that distinction just shows you're being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative.

    Everything you argued I was doing was what you yourself were doing.

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