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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Which is definitely the flaw in having one guy control everything - sure, there's consistent quality throughout the MCU brand, but there's also no variety at all.
    I think there is a genuine honesty by some that the brand has variety when that...mathematically its impossible if one guy controls everything there would be variety. it just very not possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    You stated that Feige said that Blade would be R rated. Do you have any proof of that. The link you listed did not support your claim at all.

    I am asking for a second time. Do you have support for this, or are you just making up claims?
    Goal post was moved about God Loves, Man Kills.

    this was news back then 2 years ago, cant find the interview anymore because of the new pg 13 news, Feige around 2 years ago gave people hope it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I misread this and thought it was about Moebius the French comic book artist at first. I'm like, "What is Disney doing Arzach?"
    No, No, It's the Jared Leto film.

    Sony is making a Morbius film with him, its about a comic book character who becomes a vampire.

    the ratings is still up on in the air.

    https://www.joblo.com/horror-movies/...ire-be-rated-r

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    I think there is a genuine honesty by some that the brand has variety when that...mathematically its impossible if one guy controls everything there would be variety. it just very not possible.



    Goal post was moved about God Loves, Man Kills.

    this was news back then 2 years ago, cant find the interview anymore because of the new pg 13 news, Feige around 2 years ago gave people hope it would.
    Or it never actually happened?

    Feige is a master at giving non answers. He can spend a full minute talking about a subject without actually giving any details or confirmation. If people got their hopes up, it wasn't because an explicit statement was ever made that Blade would be R rated. It's more a case of someone projected their own wishes. If you're upset about that, it's because you managed to convince yourself of something that isn't true.

    If you want to persuade anyone that your views are correct, try the following:

    1. Don't make up claims about people.
    2. Be able to back up your claims with support
    3. If you get something wrong, don't double down. Admit your mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    Or it never actually happened?
    Here is the proof or the back up of my claims.

    https://geektyrant.com/news/disney-c...-like-deadpool


    eige is a master at giving non answers. He can spend a full minute talking about a subject without actually giving any details or confirmation. If people got their hopes up, it wasn't because an explicit statement was ever made that Blade would be R rated. It's more a case of someone projected their own wishes. If you're upset about that, it's because you managed to convince yourself of something that isn't true.

    what I know is fiege does say things that don't really turn out as such, You should not take his word all the time. one best example is saying spiderman movies will be like harry potter series but they are not. Feige is a master with sticking to what Disney wants even if it comes at the expense of the source material, so no r rated blade, and the last deadpool R movie is the 3rd film, and this is because fox had already green-lighted it and Deadpool is too huge now to cancel quickly.

    I personally always thought Feige does gives non answers because he did not know much deeply. I remember once trying to find videos or interviews of him talking about x-men and the little I saw, what he says were always fluff.. he seem more into the action comic book side of things than the story or mythos.
    If you want to persuade anyone that your views are correct, try the following:

    1. Don't make up claims about people.
    2. Be able to back up your claims with support
    3. If you get something wrong, don't double down. Admit your mistake.
    I did not really correct about you about anything, except maybe trying to tell you How god loves, man kills can be adapted in 2021 page by page. I backed up my statement with Blakklansman and I will also add other films like Joker.

    you tried to move the goal post when you realised like I did that god loves, man kills will be off limits with marvel.

    if one F word can get a film r rating, see the Snyder Cut. imagine what what one N word can do with social analysis.
    Last edited by Castle; 03-02-2021 at 08:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Here is the proof or the back up of my claims.

    https://geektyrant.com/news/disney-c...-like-deadpool
    Um, do we really need to point out that Bob Iger is NOT Kevin Feige? That link doesn't back up what you said at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Here is the proof or the back up of my claims.

    https://geektyrant.com/news/disney-c...-like-deadpool





    what I know is fiege does say things that don't really turn out as such, You should not take his word all the time. one best example is saying spiderman movies will be like harry potter series but they are not. Feige is a master with sticking to what Disney wants even if it comes at the expense of the source material, so no r rated blade, and the last deadpool R movie is the 3rd film, and this is because fox had already green-lighted it and Deadpool is too huge now to cancel quickly.

    I personally always thought Feige does gives non answers because he did not know much deeply. I remember once trying to find videos or interviews of him talking about x-men and the little I saw, what he says were always fluff.. he seem more into the action comic book side of things than the story or mythos.


    I did not really correct about you about anything, except maybe trying to tell you How god loves, man kills can be adapted in 2021 page by page. I backed up my statement with Blakklansman and I will also add other films like Joker.

    you tried to move the goal post when you realised like I did that god loves, man kills will be off limits with marvel.

    if one F word can get a film r rating, see the Snyder Cut. imagine what what one N word can do with social analysis.
    That link does not support in anyway your claim that Kevin Fiege said Blade would be R rated.

    If you don't have support, it's okay to admit that. Just stop pretending that the theories in your head are established fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    That link does not support in anyway your claim that Kevin Fiege said Blade would be R rated.

    If you don't have support, it's okay to admit that. Just stop pretending that the theories in your head are established fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
    Um, do we really need to point out that Bob Iger is NOT Kevin Feige? That link doesn't back up what you said at all.
    Bob is his boss. whatever Bob says goes. Feige and Bob cannot contradict each other. Also remember I did say more that it was Disney who can't make r movies, I only started talking of fiege because he runs marvel for disney but they are interchangeable.

    I think this one is done. what is next now is how much we can get from the PG. Maybe pg blade can be as believable as a PG X-MEN 2 movie with tone and themes since Blade is not comedy like Deadpool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Bob is his boss. whatever Bob says goes. Feige and Bob cannot contradict each other. Also remember I did say more that it was Disney who can't make r movies, I only started talking of fiege because he runs marvel for disney but they are interchangeable.
    Yeah, no. Bob doesn't make the decisions for Marvel Studios and hasn't for awhile. In fact, even when Iger had more control, he and Fiege famously butted heads so you can't use a quote from one as proof the other agrees or would go through with it. Nice try, though.

    Just admit you don't have any actual proof of your claim. Doubling down just makes it look like you really don't know what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
    Yeah, no. Bob doesn't make the decisions for Marvel Studios and hasn't for awhile. In fact, even when Iger had more control, he and Fiege famously butted heads so you can't use a quote from one as proof the other agrees or would go through with it. Nice try, though.
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    https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...e-r-rated-mcu/
    Marvel Studios President Says R-Rated Films Aren't Out Of The Question


    https://theplaylist.net/kevin-feige-...ated-20190416/


    https://collider.com/disney-r-rated-movie-talk/
    Movie Talk: Disney Will Make R-Rated Marvel Movies

    Kevin works for a company called Walt Disney studios. he is chairman of marvel one of their sub company like KK is for star wars. they give him task and he completes it to the fullest of their satisfaction. if disney says no R. Kevin says no R.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Bob is his boss. whatever Bob says goes. Feige and Bob cannot contradict each other. Also remember I did say more that it was Disney who can't make r movies, I only started talking of fiege because he runs marvel for disney but they are interchangeable.

    I think this one is done. what is next now is how much we can get from the PG. Maybe pg blade can be as believable as a PG X-MEN 2 movie with tone and themes since Blade is not comedy like Deadpool
    Why don't you just say "Bob Iger said more R rated Marvel movies can happen" instead of "Kevin Feige promised Blade will be R rated"? Those are 2 different statements. One is a fact that can be supported. One is a made up fantasy that only happened in your head. You're only hurting your own credibility by continuing to argue on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...e-r-rated-mcu/
    Marvel Studios President Says R-Rated Films Aren't Out Of The Question


    https://theplaylist.net/kevin-feige-...ated-20190416/


    https://collider.com/disney-r-rated-movie-talk/
    Movie Talk: Disney Will Make R-Rated Marvel Movies

    Kevin works for a company called Walt Disney studios. he is chairman of marvel one of their sub company like KK is for star wars. they give him task and he completes it to the fullest of their satisfaction. if disney says no R. Kevin says no R.

    It's that simple.
    Except it isn't since Disney doesn't dictate what Marvel does. There's literally multiple articles explaining this and showing Kevin Feige has pretty much carte blanche with Disney.

    https://observer.com/2019/10/disney-...l-kevin-feige/

    https://cosmicbook.news/bob-iger-mar...ike-perlmutter

    And apologies, it was Ike Perlmutter he had issues with. But, as the case with Captain Marvel and Back Panther, Feige still got his way over him despite Ike being his "boss."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...e-r-rated-mcu/
    Marvel Studios President Says R-Rated Films Aren't Out Of The Question


    https://theplaylist.net/kevin-feige-...ated-20190416/


    https://collider.com/disney-r-rated-movie-talk/
    Movie Talk: Disney Will Make R-Rated Marvel Movies

    Kevin works for a company called Walt Disney studios. he is chairman of marvel one of their sub company like KK is for star wars. they give him task and he completes it to the fullest of their satisfaction. if disney says no R. Kevin says no R.

    It's that simple.
    No one is disputing that Disney owns Marvel. But ownership does not automatically mean that Bob Iger or any non Marvel Studios executives are dictating the creative decisions made for the movies. The only instances of interference came from Ike Perlmutter and the Creative Committee. That interference ended when Marvel was restructured to put Feige in charge of everything.

    https://collider.com/why-the-end-of-...er-mcu-movies/

    If you google this, you will find countless articles and news items that confirm it. Can you provide support that Iger is micro managing the movies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    Why don't you just say "Bob Iger said more R rated Marvel movies can happen" instead of "Kevin Feige promised Blade will be R rated"? Those are 2 different statements. One is a fact that can be supported. One is a made up fantasy that only happened in your head. You're only hurting your own credibility by continuing to argue on this.
    I said Kevin/disney gave people high hopes not promised. The media is doing a good job covering disappointing fans reactions to the new news.


    https://uproxx.com/movies/blade-marv...ter-reactions/
    ‘Blade’ Fans Are Pissed That Marvel’s Reboot With Mahershala Ali May Not Be Rated R

    https://www.ladbible.com/entertainme...pg-13-20210225

    https://www.jioforme.com/mcu-fan-is-...-pg-13/203301/

    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/mar...e-movie-pg-13/
    Marvel fans hate that the new ‘Blade’ movie will be PG-13

    If anyone has hurt their credibility to handle xmen/blade it is Fiege/Disney. They should have just been honest that R can and will never be their thing.

    Do you know why I never bought into fiege saying his spiderman films will be like harry potter? because harry potter was a creative film commentary, the series growing up was a centre core to the films and the movie got darker as the films were made. all mostly shaped by each individual director. taking that into meaning, there was zero chance spiderman will be like a harry potter, so why will fiege say that? because he will say what seem to be ''popular'' at that very moment and at that moment with deadpool and logan changing so much, he played the game,


    https://collider.com/spider-man-home...-harry-potter/
    Kevin Feige Says ‘Spider-Man’ Sequels Could Follow the ‘Harry Potter’ Format

    However I predicted r rated marvel will likely not see the light of day after deadpool 3 and even deadpool 3 is lucky. I have not hurt my credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    I said Kevin/disney gave people high hopes not promised. The media is doing a good job covering disappointing fans reactions to the new news.


    https://uproxx.com/movies/blade-marv...ter-reactions/
    ‘Blade’ Fans Are Pissed That Marvel’s Reboot With Mahershala Ali May Not Be Rated R

    https://www.ladbible.com/entertainme...pg-13-20210225

    https://www.jioforme.com/mcu-fan-is-...-pg-13/203301/

    https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/mar...e-movie-pg-13/
    Marvel fans hate that the new ‘Blade’ movie will be PG-13

    If anyone has hurt their credibility to handle xmen/blade it is Fiege/Disney. They should have just been honest that R can and will never be their thing.

    Do you know why I never bought into fiege saying his spiderman films will be like harry potter? because harry potter was a creative film commentary, the series growing up was a centre core to the films and the movie got darker as the films were made. all mostly shaped by each individual director. taking that into meaning, there was zero chance spiderman will be like a harry potter, so why will fiege say that? because he will say what seem to be ''popular'' at that very moment and at that moment with deadpool and logan changing so much, he played the game,


    https://collider.com/spider-man-home...-harry-potter/
    Kevin Feige Says ‘Spider-Man’ Sequels Could Follow the ‘Harry Potter’ Format

    However I predicted r rated marvel will likely not see the light of day after deadpool 3 and even deadpool 3 is lucky. I have not hurt my credibility.
    You specifically said "Kevin Feige" and are now trying to add "Disney" in. You're intellectually dishonest. And you didn't "predict" anything lol I read that topic and what you initially said was that "I thought we already knew this?" as though Kevin Feige had already said that was the case. You then proceeded to incorrectly ague that the MPAA rates things based on the studio making it.

    And even if you did say what you're now claiming, none of that has actually come to pass. Deadpool 3 isn't out to determine what type of film it'll be and this topic doesn't state they will never do an R-rated film again. You actually haven't been proven right in any of your claims on this topic.

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    And just to back up MY claims:

    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...ighlight=rated

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