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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    horrors don't succeed with R.
    I'm guessing you meant to say without R, and yeah no, The Ring, Insidious, A Quiet Place, 1408, The Others, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, Mama, Lights Out, Poltergeist, Jaws, the Sixth Sense, The Grudge, and many other critically and/or financially successful horror films were rated PG13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    What like Porn parodies?
    I mean, their action scenes are wildly different yet just as exciting in their own way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    Well Ill believe it when I see it. Not sure how you do a blade movie thats not R rated. Almost anything else I can see.
    Why? He doesn't need to cuss or get naked. MCu already has decapitation and limbs being cut off. Vampires and supernatural beats give the perfect way to have him hacking stuff up without getting a R. You see multiple heads get cut off I'm the MCU. They just cant show the exposed neck with blood squinting out. Vampires can dust away right after he cuts the head. There are 100% ways to do the action and violence justice with PG 13.

    I will say I don't know the limits exactly. Like what happened to Thanos at the beginning of Endgame. Could they have done that 50x in the film and still been PG 13 or is there a limit to how many times you can get away with that?


    Anyway yea I don't need graphic violence. The director just needs to be able to cleverly film these scenes. Mandalorian did a good job at it too. Door cutting a dude in half and stringing the guy up to be eaten alive. Making those scenes rated R graphic wouldn't have made them better to me. And again Blades killing Vampires you just have them dust after the slice but before the squirting blood. Werewolves and stuff would be what needs to be cleverly shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Why? He doesn't need to cuss or get naked. MCu already has decapitation and limbs being cut off. Vampires and supernatural beats give the perfect way to have him hacking stuff up without getting a R. You see multiple heads get cut off I'm the MCU. They just cant show the exposed neck with blood squinting out. Vampires can dust away right after he cuts the head. There are 100% ways to do the action and violence justice with PG 13.

    I will say I don't know the limits exactly. Like what happened to Thanos at the beginning of Endgame. Could they have done that 50x in the film and still been PG 13 or is there a limit to how many times you can get away with that?

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    True that you can do violence 100% in a PG films, However it is down to the believability of the violence. MCU violence has never been all that believable or convincing, I think this is the reason it's never really brought up say in comparison to a wolverine film or a batman film, also it's a scenario of less is more or more is less. for a lot of 90s cartoons, we didn't expect them to have violence, so when it did, it was worth pointing out of the good risks it took, while for some live action comic books, because the violence is so cartoony or unrealistic, some people get a bit disappointed because we did not expect things to be so toned down.


    Anyway yea I don't need graphic violence. The director just needs to be able to cleverly film these scenes. Mandalorian did a good job at it too. Door cutting a dude in half and stringing the guy up to be eaten alive. Making those scenes rated R graphic wouldn't have made them better to me. And again Blades killing Vampires you just have them dust after the slice but before the squirting blood. Werewolves and stuff would be what needs to be cleverly shot
    Yeah I think is is more complex, graphic violence is down to the plot of the film, that may need it or not. What will Kevin Feige do about an XMEN story like the Mutant Massacre? even if he makes it PG, It will still have to be far beyond any PG he has done with MCU movies.

    Also see the past drug use issue in Spiderman 1, DOFP or First Avenger. Many comic fans are not kids, they appreciate genuine mature themes in their movies because they are already used it, even in PG or R,

    Mandalorian is not Blade or X-Men, its not like the original star wars films either like Episode 3 or Episode 5, Some parts of those movies will not be found today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    I'm guessing you meant to say without R, and yeah no, The Ring, Insidious, A Quiet Place, 1408, The Others, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, Mama, Lights Out, Poltergeist, Jaws, the Sixth Sense, The Grudge, and many other critically and/or financially successful horror films were rated PG13.
    It's always a rare, the pass rate is about 80% to 20%. Is Six -Sense and Jaws really horror?

    Directors mostly favour R because they know what is expected. they hate to go in thinking they would be limited, so they option for R from the start even if the end result is PG.

    Wesley Snipes Blade is iconic, making a toned down version of the movie is just a step backwards, regardless of how Kevin feige will want to spin things. I have to give Fiege credit though, he has so much faith in his MCU well oil machined empire, he truly thinks it will be easy to get away with watered down Blade and Deadpool, even those this two movies series made the R genre what it is today. I think Feige is in for a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    They said that about the first movie and we know how that turned out.
    I think the rumors might be right here. I mean having Cletus Kasady/ Carnage as the main villain, you kinda have to go rated R with him. OF course they could go PG 13 but it would be an even bigger mistake this go around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Legion87 View Post
    I think the rumors might be right here. I mean having Cletus Kasady/ Carnage as the main villain, you kinda have to go rated R with him. OF course they could go PG 13 but it would be an even bigger mistake this go around.
    We'll see, although I wonder if they'd want to take a chance on an R-rated movie that might give them less returns then a PG-13 film would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    We'll see, although I wonder if they'd want to take a chance on an R-rated movie that might give them less returns then a PG-13 film would.

    Apart from Harley Quinn Birds of Prey movie, a movie we may blame on.... it's a female lead. the returns of R movies have increased dramatically . Deadpool 1, Deadpool 2, Logan and Joker all did better than their predecessor movieS and I can also point out this movies dont even have the best marketing on the planet that is a Disney marketing, so imagine what the returns can do if you bring in the Disney weight for Blade/X-Men r movies.

    Sorry but I dont think it's about returns, thee is no evidence that supports it's a box office issue.

    Also if it is true that Venom 2 is rated R after the pg first movie did 800 million, Sony must be eyeing what Joker accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    We'll see, although I wonder if they'd want to take a chance on an R-rated movie that might give them less returns then a PG-13 film would.
    I saw some pics on Twitter last month from a supposed "leaked" ad for Venom 2 that said it was Rated R though it could be fakes.

    https://twitter.com/Brock8000/status...81091541045249

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    No one wants something like Punisher Warzone but I miss stuff like The Crow, Dredd and hope The Suicide Squad will become something special.

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    "No plans" doesn't mean no more. It just means no plans (for now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou D. Kid View Post
    "No plans" doesn't mean no more. It just means no plans (for now).
    True - but only because Feige can't really promise what might happen after he's gone - because for sure as long as he's in charge there'll be no R rated stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Why? He doesn't need to cuss or get naked. MCu already has decapitation and limbs being cut off. Vampires and supernatural beats give the perfect way to have him hacking stuff up without getting a R. You see multiple heads get cut off I'm the MCU. They just cant show the exposed neck with blood squinting out. Vampires can dust away right after he cuts the head. There are 100% ways to do the action and violence justice with PG 13.

    I will say I don't know the limits exactly. Like what happened to Thanos at the beginning of Endgame. Could they have done that 50x in the film and still been PG 13 or is there a limit to how many times you can get away with that?












    Anyway yea I don't need graphic violence. The director just needs to be able to cleverly film these scenes. Mandalorian did a good job at it too. Door cutting a dude in half and stringing the guy up to be eaten alive. Making those scenes rated R graphic wouldn't have made them better to me. And again Blades killing Vampires you just have them dust after the slice but before the squirting blood. Werewolves and stuff would be what needs to be cleverly shot.
    I don't know. I will say I will give marvel the benefit of the doubt. They have pulled everything else off so I am not going they can't do a pg-13 blade. Part of it is preconceived notions on what it will be based on the past movies. But that being said I don't see Marvel doing this if they don't think they can do it in a way thats good. So I guess we will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Apart from Harley Quinn Birds of Prey movie, a movie we may blame on.... it's a female lead.
    What the what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    the returns of R movies have increased dramatically . Deadpool 1, Deadpool 2, Logan and Joker all did better than their predecessor movieS and I can also point out this movies dont even have the best marketing on the planet that is a Disney marketing, so imagine what the returns can do if you bring in the Disney weight for Blade/X-Men r movies.

    Sorry but I dont think it's about returns, thee is no evidence that supports it's a box office issue.

    Also if it is true that Venom 2 is rated R after the pg first movie did 800 million, Sony must be eyeing what Joker accomplished.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Legion87 View Post
    I saw some pics on Twitter last month from a supposed "leaked" ad for Venom 2 that said it was Rated R though it could be fakes.

    https://twitter.com/Brock8000/status...81091541045249
    Guess we'll see when the movie comes out, since all that the filmmakers have said is that they want to keep what worked from the first movie and seem to be trying to build the sequel for that format over shooting for a specific rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inisideguy View Post
    I don't know. I will say I will give marvel the benefit of the doubt. They have pulled everything else off so I am not going they can't do a pg-13 blade. Part of it is preconceived notions on what it will be based on the past movies. But that being said I don't see Marvel doing this if they don't think they can do it in a way thats good. So I guess we will see.
    Yea I think alot of people are going based off the Snipes films. Blade really isn't like that. Hes a more diverse character then just a horror vampire hunter. I'm betting they are gonna lean into Supernatural action adventure, rather then straight up horror. Which isn't out of place for the character. Also bet we get more variety then just vampires. Hope they set up awhole supernatural side of the MCU. Guess we will have to wait and see.

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