THE SIGNAL (Duke Thomas) is DC's secret shonen protagonist so I made him a fandom wiki
also, check out "The Signal Tape" a Duke Thomas fan project.
currently following:
- DC: Red Hood: The Hill
- Marvel: TBD
- Manga (Shonen/Seinen): One Piece, My Hero, Dandadan, Jujutsu Kaisen, Kaiju No. 8, Reincarnation of The Veteran Soldier, Oblivion Rouge, ORDEAL, The Breaker: Eternal Force
"power does not corrupt, power always reveals."
Who on Earth are you having this conversation with? Where did I say it was a villainous act for a bunch of white guys, many of whom were Jews, to make money creating what they believed at the time was going to be disposable children's entertainment? Where did I express hatred for white people? You can't because I didn't do that and it's painfully obvious that I wasn’t implying it either as I am both a white guy and Jewish. What those men accomplished is worthy of all the praise it gets. This discussion isn't about tearing them down, but rather about where we can and should go today in an industry built upon their work. How do we make today's characters as vital and relevant to today's world as those characters were to the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s? What needs to be updated and what needs to be left behind? It's not an easy question and it requires nuance and thoughtful balancing of the realities of the current aging comics market, but an eye towards future readers.
Unfortunately, you are not having this discussion with me, you are swinging at some preconceived idea of what you think I am saying so there's no real point in continuing trying to do so. If you want to have a real discussion with me, I will be here though.
This is pretty much what I think, but better.
Let's just look at Hal, have him still joining the Air Force because of his dad, Chuck Yeager and all that. Make Hal love flying and wanting to do it for his country, but when they send him to war, instead of the romantic dog fights he was expecting the job was to fly a 20 million dollars plane dropping bombs on targets he could barely see. He lost faith, became a test pilot and the rest is history.
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Uncle Dudley from Shazam.
But they’ve gotten rid of him.
The Newsboy Legion. DC has tried to update them, but the name alone would have to be changed.
I'm going with Delivery Legion. They're hired to deliver packages from mom-and-pop stores since the big ones already have their own couriers.
This is a good post , my small disagreement is with assessment of journalism and Superman. Not only is newspapers aren't a big thing, We have culture changed from being centered around newspapers and big part of Clark Kent thing is how his words would be able effect change just as much as Superman literally while superheroing .There is no newspaper journalist who has that impact anymore you can adapt the Daily Planet for the modern era better but if you want Clark Kent to have the same impact words to society if he would have to be Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity or a regular contributor news talk show. Those are people who words have impact to masses today. So it is interesting dilemma of do you just update Daily Planet to be functioning version of what newspaper is modern world just tell good stories with that aspect or do you try to regain that voice for change in slightly different field.
Since I am here I don't find test pilot to be that outdated, Test pilot job is to show that he is fearless and has an "iron will" I think still it does that even though we don't gush over fighter pilots types like we did in the past. You switch test pilot to testing experimental space vehicles for spacex like company and it works today. Switching Nightwing to Cirque de Solei like group also makes a lot of sense I think if the every put Nightwing story on the big screen they will go with route. But like you said the changes are often small but requires moving away from tradition.
Well, Clark doesn't have to be in front of the camera, which would stretch the bounds of credibility when it comes to his secret identity even further. JL: Gods and Monsters had a version of Lois who was a news anchor. You could take a page from HBO's The Newsroom and have Clark be a producer for Lois's show or Ron Troupe's show or Cat Grant's show or Lombard's show, etc.
That is fine, I just mentioned it because it is important to note in updating a character whether you are going to try to keep the original intent or just update the character as best you can. And in Superman case might not be keep the original intent because the printed word isn't as powerful in technology age with people who have short attention spans. Part of Clark Kent thing is writing powerful pieces that can effect people if you still want to do that might mean changing his job.
It also might mean updating how keeps his secret identity just an example All might is a superman clone. And this is difference between him as human and in his hero mode
People love the glass secret identity to them it is sacred but bring the character up to date might mean trying something else. If Superman secret identity was sure up more could he do a job in the news? The answer is yes. Sometimes updating is simple, sometimes they are a lot of questions about what do you want to do with the character. And relax superman fan I am not saying to change anything I am just saying there is give and take in process. Once upon a time Superman changing in a phone booth was classic thing, Is protecting the classic thing always the best thing?
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DC already tried updating him by making him a news anchor in the 70s at GBS.
I’m surprised the modern has never brought back that Bronze Age aspect of him.
The Superman & Lois show seem to be showing the downsizing of news print industry. So they’re taking the modern realistic approach of a newspaper.
I just want to mention that ‘color blind’ and ‘I don’t see color’ have taken on totally different meanings than they did when I was growing up.
When I was growing up they meant equality for all, countering classism based on race.
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