Put down another one for Calvin Ellis!
Put down another one for Calvin Ellis!
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Black Panther wasn't exactly a Superman-level character before his movie, and the results speak for themselves.
But Marvel also had a strong shared universe that boosted all the IPs, and WB doesn't have that due to their own incompetence. Even without it, if they used Vixen or Black Lightning in a movie, it could still do very well.
Black Superman and Latina Supergirl?
Cousins?
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Did they learn NOTHING from Star Trek and Star Wars? Talk about failing up!
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BP definitely had the foundation of the MCU at that point to fall back on, but at the same time you ask 10 people on the street before that film who Black Panther was, I'd be confident in saying 8 would have no clue. They marketed it well, they advertised, and it became a sensation. WB could do the same with their library of black superheroes. Again I understand they wouldn't have the backing of a successful cinematic verse behind it to help, but in the end being part of the MCU wasn't what made Black Panther special to people.
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"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El
I want a traditional Superman movie well done before we get to Val or Calvin. And you need Clark Kent for Val anyway.
“Look, you can’t put the Superman #77s with the #200s. They haven’t even discovered Red Kryptonite yet. And you can’t put the #98s with the #300s, Lori Lemaris hasn’t even been introduced.” — Sam
“Where the hell are you from? Krypton?” — Edgar Frog
What SK said. BP had the advantage of the MCU, but that isn't all he had going for him.
It's good that a Static movie is in the works and I imagine it will be received and do well if it is well made, without a big cinematic brand attached to it. Same with Blue Beetle. Vixen or Icon would be in the same league.
The race of the actor cast in the role doesn't bother me whatsoever.
The rumor that this will not be Clark Kent/Metropolis/Smallville/Daily Planet-centric movie, however, will definitely spark my ire.
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I still remember JJ's horrible pitch for the Superman movie he wanted to make. Having him involved in any way after reading that pile of garbage does not bode well at all.
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*holds in giggles*
What if it's Jon?
Like, what if Flashpoint teases this Superman reboot with a Hispanic Kara and by proxy a Hispanic Clark? But then Lois is Black.
Thus you've just shamelessly ripped off Miles if you make Jon the Superman in question. The fact of the matter is, WB has asked 3 major Black famous people to play Clark Kent since 1978. Ali in 78, Will Smith for in the early 2000s, and MBJ recently. All said no. Smith famously said "you can't take Superman away from White folks", and MBJ said "I don't think I'd want to play Clark Kent. I think I'd play Calvin Ellis".
The thing is, Jordan's suggestion to play Ellis left Oprah (the one interviewing him) with a glazed over look in her eyes because she had no got damn idea who that was. I mean, who would? And how could you possibly pitch that to a studio? Had he said "I'd play Superman's son" she'd have gotten that even if she has no earthly idea who Jon Kent was. Moreover, Lois was almost played by Zoe Saldana in MOS, and the only reason she didn't was just because Adams won out. And based on how cool they were with switching Perry White, actors coming on don't seem to be as turned off by the potential backlash of changing Lois' race or the races of supporting characters.
So, Clark can be Hispanic but essentially White passing, or just White if they studio gets cold feet on that end (Kara's mom being Hispanic rather than her dad), and Jon would be biracial (piggybacking off the Momoa "hybrid in more ways than one deal") but primarily Black as far as the limited view of a studio is concerned.
Would explain why Jon is *still* being pushed in the comics as hard as he is (with little to no sign of Calvin or Val). 5G was rumored to be intended for adaptions to outside media, and I suspect that still holds true because they're holding onto Jace as Batman, Jon as Superman, and Yara as Wonder Woman for dear life. Yara even coming within spitting distance of a TV show a few months ago.
This would also work as the counter point to S&L.
All this to say "hey look Superman has a biracial son, and he's the new Superman" The Movie is a marketing lock over Val or Calvin.
Go on. Do it. Lie to me and say this doesn't make at least SOME sense
This is in part to troll, but you know good and damn well it makes some sense.
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If this movie is live-action, I wonder who they would cast to play Black Jor-El...Idris Elba?