Original Superman Clark Kent is an alien,.... Yes.... A very caucasian-looking alien as it was shown on his planet that there were VERY earth- human looking in appearance without alien looking deformities.
There are also black and other earth race looking kryptonians.
Calvin Ellis is a PERFECT example.....why not use him instead?!?
The "wider audience" didn't know who black panther was either or Aquaman..... Both movies still made over $1bn.
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Additionally, both BP and Aquaman did not have the platform of an insanely popular mantle or brand-name to carry and propagate their success like Calvin Ellis has with "SUPERMAN" .....Calvin Ellis situation is EXACTLY like Miles Morales. Both being alternate universe characters on an insanely hyper-popular brand-name/mantle.
If Morales can have the current level of success as a black spdierman, same can be done with Ellis as a black superman.
Last edited by Besouro; 03-01-2021 at 03:39 AM.
Yea I don't see the point in making him Clark. Superman is whats gonna bring the eyes. Nobody's who was gonna watch it is gonna change they're mind because he's isn't Clark Kent. I can respect the people saying don't make Clark Black,just use Calvin or Val-Zod. Because it just makes sense. Now making Icon instead doesn't. Because the Superman title is what's got name recognition. Also everything interesting you can do with a Black Superman. Issues you can tackle and such. You can do with Calvin Ellis no problem. Also you have way more creative freedom since 99.9% of people don't know Calvin Story. You can do something new or just ape Clark's story with a few tweaks. While I'm not gonna have a nervous breakdown if they make Clark Black like some people. I just think Calvin makes more sense.
If I'm being 100% honest I love Steel. Wish they would have gave Canvill a good sequel. Even soft reboot if they wanted and then brought Steel in. Shaq movie is great for a movie so bad it's fun. But that's not Steel. I'd love to see a more accurate version of the character. Plus you get Superman connection while introducing a Ironman esque character.
Being Clark lets you tell a familiar story and claim the one true superman title, Yes they will still be people who wont see him as Clark or their Superman but general it works I haven't seen anyone go Aquaman isn't my Aquaman as example. There is a reason to make him Clark but I am not saying it is the best idea.
The Icon argument is the Captain Marvel or Black Panther argument which is don't worry about how big it is in the comic world, In the movie world once you can tell a good story it will shine. Icon is about creating a new IP while giving a superman style character a shot.
Again my personal choice is for character like Icon to get a chance if we are talking superman like characters, Long term it is better for DC imo. Both Black Clark Kent and Val Zod/Ellis have an issue which is limited existence while the "real" superman is around. While Icon can run around with Superman existing and not step on his toes because they are differences.
Any Icon movie is really going to be a POV Rocket movie anyway.
A-Ha, and this is were more controversial issues will arise because I see some in the black community who will fairly ask, why they did not just make Lois lane black and must all black men be with a white woman to appeal to a bigger audience, I have seen this issue before with Denzel Washington and Julia Roberts and they were...are still big stars.
And this is what I am saying, the studio should have made both sue and johnny black in Fantastic 4 but this studio are scared that if there are too many black characters, it will easily be seen as a black movie and they don't want that.iirc the storm family was black in that and sue was a white adoption
Here is my take, if you want to really do a black superman, you have to do it all the way, not one leg in the door , and the other leg out.
Last edited by Castle; 03-01-2021 at 08:36 AM.
14 pages of fun.
This is gonna be funny since JJ Abrams is a 50/50 chance of being good and Coates is a political activist who can barely write a superhero comic but we have him writing comic book movies now.
As long as they don't rehash Clark Kent's story, it should be good. They should use Lor-Zod's (from Gods and Monsters) a little.
"Cable was right!"
I'm just wondering to myself if Abrams and Coates can deliver something that's not Snyder-esque.
I know Coates has made a name for himself with his articles and writing, but his Superhero fiction seems much more mixed in terms of reception.
Using Clark gets you Lois Lane, which honestly seems like the character Coates would rather write about than Superman.
If WB really understood why Black Panther was so huge, they would easily capitalize on the Milestone characters, as opposed to (presumably) "race swap" Superman. Static, Icon/Rocket and Hardware could all be HUGE with the black community and set them apart from Marvel's comic universe. Unfortunately, they clearly do not understand why BP made over $1 billion, so here we are.