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    Quote Originally Posted by DanMad1977 View Post
    Blackhat was a flop, and it was stupid here and there, but I liked it. Its entertaining and shows that <Chris Hemsworth can act.
    Really? I think he did better acting in Ghostbusters to be honest....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    However, now, because it was directed by Terry Jones, I'm sure those same critics would say it's a wonderful movie and there's probably a large cult following for the film. Because that's how revisionism always works.
    Some movies just seem to improve over time or with repeat viewings, or age better upon further reflection. Two examples that spring to mind include Blade Runner and Carpenter's The Thing. Maybe even Office Space and Clue. And I feel like critics should also be allowed the chance to revise their own reviews as time goes on, too.

    I remember Roger Ebert once saying that because he liked X2, he thought better in hindsight of the first X-Men movie, something he had previously given a thumbs down. Siskel and Ebert also had occasional episodes where they re-reviewed a movie after considering giving it a second chance, and changing their votes accordingly. These episodes didn't happen often, but when they did it was usually for a pretty good reason.
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    I also remember Siskel & Ebert hating on RESERVOIR DOGS, which I saw early at a film festival and thought was brilliant and believed this new director was going to be someone to contend with in the future. But because I'm not a big name film critic, I can't pat myself on the back for immediately recognizing great movies. Yet big name film critics can put down a movie and influence its box office, then turn around years later and say never mind and still get credit for being such wonderful critics because they revised their opinions due to 20/20 hindsight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    Really? I think he did better acting in Ghostbusters to be honest....
    He was funny in Ghostbusters, yes. Whatever you prefer, he is no acting god (pun intended). Blackhat showed producers that he isn't only the sunny boy type of guy, so he got more roles. He said that in an interview.

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    Something I saw earlier reminded me...

    COOL AS ICE.
    Ah yes, the 1991 toure de force of one Vanilla Ice. His magnum opus if you will. But seriously I thought it was a fun formulaic flick. I watched it twice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanMad1977 View Post
    He was funny in Ghostbusters, yes. Whatever you prefer, he is no acting god (pun intended). Blackhat showed producers that he isn't only the sunny boy type of guy, so he got more roles. He said that in an interview.
    I'm not sure I'd say funny but he definitely was a more believable as a dummy guy then a super hacker....

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    I'm not sure I'd say funny but he definitely was a more believable as a dummy guy then a super hacker....
    Do you think he is believable as Thor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanMad1977 View Post
    Do you think he is believable as Thor?
    Yes I do I like him as Thor.

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    I also liked him in Men In Black International. Which come to think of it, is a disliked movie I liked.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    John Carter
    Alien 3
    Supergirl (1984)
    Josstice League
    Charlie’s Angels (2000) and Charlie’s Angels: Full Throttle
    The producers (2005)
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    Some of these might just be unpopular among larger audiences or hugely divisive rather than 'universally disliked' but anyway:

    Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
    Its a flawed but ultimately good film that just stops short of greatness. And it inspired the Snyder Cut movement so there is something in it that evokes the passionate loyalty of the fanbase.

    Wonder Woman 1984
    I think it was a nice fun film, a throwback to the days of the Christopher Reeves' Superman and Silver Age comics. Not every superhero film needs to aspire to be TDK or Logan.

    Mission Impossible II
    Don't get me wrong...its the worst MI film. But taken on its own merits, its pretty slick and entertaining.

    Quantum of Solace
    Its no Casino Royale or Skyfall for sure, but I think it was the ''James Bond reinvented as Jason Bourne'' idea taken to its logical conclusion, and I'm kinda glad they got it out of their system! And stylistically it was a treat to watch.

    Star Trek Into Darkness
    I get why people dislike it, especially old-school Star Trek fans. But it was an interesting remake/remix of The Wrath of Khan (as well as the 60's TOS episode that introduced Khan). Benedict Cumberbatch is brilliant as always. And I kinda enjoyed the 'War on Terror' subtext.

    X-men Dark Phoenix
    Its not a terrible film by any means...just an above-average one. But it was a decent watch, a somewhat better adaptation of the original story than X3, and I think it suffered more from behind-the-scenes stuff and reshoots than anything else.

    Star Wars The Last Jedi AND Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker
    I'm not a hardcore Star Wars fan, which is maybe why I can respect what Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams respectively were trying to do with these films, as opposing as their visions were. I can appreciate the desire to shake up the SW mythos on the one hand, and appeal to traditionalists with a quasi-remake of a classic Star Wars movie on the other. (And yes, I know these movies are more divisive than universally disliked...but they both are disliked passionate by different sections of the fanbase.

    Psycho (1998)
    This is a deep cut, and borderline blasphemous I bet! But nonetheless, I found it an...interesting...experiment in a shot-for-shot remake of Psycho.

    Spider-Man 3
    Its not perfect, but highly enjoyable and a decent ending to Raimi's trilogy. Plus, I actually enjoyed Peter having fun under the symbiote's influence...I love Maguire's Spider-Man but he was a bit too mopey in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bat39 View Post
    Wonder Woman 1984
    I think it was a nice fun film, a throwback to the days of the Christopher Reeves' Superman and Silver Age comics. Not every superhero film needs to aspire to be TDK or Logan.
    This is my best memory from the movie. Its charm was definitely in its old school ways, especially with that mall intro that set the tone for the rest of the film.

    DC movies tend to be on the dark side, not just because of Snyder but because other directors work with him for that consistency, too. If it works for audiences, then it works, but then for me something like Shazam and WW84 provides a palette cleanser.

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    Is Speed 2 so good it's bad or just plain bad?

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    I don't believe the failure of a movie to attract an audience is proof that it's disliked by the majority of those who saw it. If people don't see the movie, they can't know if it's good or bad--although they might believe it's bad, because of the low box office, and therefore never go to see it.

    The failure of JOHN CARTER isn't because people didn't like it. I don't think. For those of us who saw the movie, we enjoyed it. The failure is that 1) Disney did a terrible job of marketing the movie and 2) the budget was so high that the modest box office could not make back the money put into the film.

    On the other hand, SUICIDE SQUAD (a movie I actually liked but not as much as JOHN CARTER) made a lot of money and many people went to see it. So you could argue that the majority of those people who saw it--a significant population--felt betrayed by that movie. Enough people saw it that you can reasonably argue most people don't like it. That's probably why the hate is so strong--because so many were duped into seeing a movie they didn't want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Hunter View Post
    Is Speed 2 so good it's bad or just plain bad?
    I vote for plain bad.

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