Wonder Woman Snyderverse JLA 2: What might have been

[Gaius]

No, it's okay. She would just chop some heads off as soon as she came back--because that makes it okay. It's like how she'll get rag-dolled by the villain and utterly crushed by Superman, but it's all right because she chops Steppenwolf's head off (after Superman does all the work).

That's empowerment, right? Get ass kicked, contribute nothing, then behead the bad guy after the real heroes save the day. Right?

Reminds me when those who say one decent scene in Injustice makes up for being the most villainized character in the entire franchise.

[Jackalope89]

On one hand, I'm not surprised at how awful Snyder's plans were. After Man of Steel and BVS, with the latter more riddled with bad then the former, it raised questions of why he was still in charge of the DCEU.

On the other hand, with how "controversial" (to put it lightly) his films and decisions in said films have been, its mind-boggling with how many people actually want to see Snyder's version. Like they forgot about his previous films.

For Diana, Snyder wanted her to have rejected being a hero and been in hiding. Patty Jenkins instead, had her be a hero with a low profile.

[Guy_McNichts]

So, from what I understand, Diana is dead in the Knightmare future where Superman goes evil. Which means, I guess, the vision she has where she becomes the God of War and kills Superman is yet another dark future?

Snyder's really in love with the "dark future where a hero turns evil and kills everyone" trope, isn't he?

There are a lot of reasons his vision of the DC universe didn't work, but his biggest failing was probably how tedious and tiresome his interpretation of these characters is. In his world, they're all joyless, aloof gods who only protect people with teeth-clenched obligation...but everyone should be grateful and inspired they don't just kill us all and take over the planet.

Like, he is aware he already made a Watchmen movie, right?

[Bruce Wayne]

Just more evidence that auteur theory doesn't work.

[SiegePerilous02]

How is Diana goddess of war but also gassed to death by Poison? Or does Superman kill her.

Anyway, at least on paper the reunion with Hippolyta sounds nice. And Hippolyta dying and Diana becoming queen seems like a natural end point to their arc, so again on paper it sounds ok.

But I still think we will have to "enjoy" seeing the likes of Philippus and Euboea die in the Snyder Cut, perhaps more graphically than their implied fates in the theatrical cut.

[Primal Slayer]

Ive read them all in their original sizes...

Menalippe returns in JL1 to warn Diana of Darkseid, in JL2 Diana uses the Lasso to unlock Themiscryas location and it basically gives her a brief vision of "whats to come" which involves her as the God of War and killing Superman.

Diana is afraid of seeing Hippolyta again and being rejected by her but the opposite happens and Hippolyta orders a feast/festival like has never been seen on Themiscrya.

Dr.Poison whose been in the Amazon rainforest has been testing on herself throughout the years and found a way to prolong her life. She's been trying to find out where Themiscrya is and she manages to find it. As everyone celebrates, Poison unleashes a toxin on the island that kills everyone, including Poison herself.

Diana is dead until The Flash travels back in time to BvS and gets Bruce to change Darkseid from killing Lois. Diana is able to round up the Amazons to come back to Mans World to help defeat Darkseid. She ends up becoming Queen, the Amazons become ambassadors of peace and usher in world peace like the world has never seen.

Diana never becomes God of War in either film.

[Guy_McNichts]

Ive read them all in their original sizes...

Menalippe returns in JL1 to warn Diana of Darkseid, in JL2 Diana uses the Lasso to unlock Themiscryas location and it basically gives her a brief vision of "whats to come" which involves her as the God of War and killing Superman.

Diana is afraid of seeing Hippolyta again and being rejected by her but the opposite happens and Hippolyta orders a feast/festival like has never been seen on Themiscrya.

Dr.Poison whose been in the Amazon rainforest has been testing on herself throughout the years and found a way to prolong her life. She's been trying to find out where Themiscrya is and she manages to find it. As everyone celebrates, Poison unleashes a toxin on the island that kills everyone, including Poison herself.

Diana is dead until The Flash travels back in time to BvS and gets Bruce to change Darkseid from killing Lois. Diana is able to round up the Amazons to come back to Mans World to help defeat Darkseid. She ends up becoming Queen, the Amazons become ambassadors of peace and usher in world peace like the world has never seen.

Diana never becomes God of War in either film.

Yare yare daze.

So Snyder's grand vision for Diana--after getting her ass handed to her by Superman in first movie--is to die pathetically in the first act of the sequel, be dead for most of it, and saved via time travel with no agency of her own.
You know, people took issue with how Black Widow--the first and main female hero of the MCU--was treated in Endgame. But at least she was IN the damn movie and had a relevant part.

Seriously, there are no words.

[Gaius]

The stuff with Diana becoming Queen with Hippolyta’s death and finding her way back with the lasso isn’t bad, but really that’s something that should be done in her own movies. Not a JL film.

I also don’t get why she’d be afraid of going back to Hippolyta, IIRC Hippolyta pretty much gave her blessing before she departed with Steve. I imagine Snyder had a different idea of Diana’s origin than what Jenkins did given this was before BvS going off what others said.

[Primal Slayer]

Yare yare daze.

So Snyder's grand vision for Diana--after getting her ass handed to her by Superman in first movie--is to die pathetically in the first act of the sequel, be dead for most of it, and saved via time travel with no agency of her own.
You know, people took issue with how Black Widow--the first and main female hero of the MCU--was treated in Endgame. But at least she was IN the damn movie and had a relevant part.

Seriously, there are no words.

Pretty much. All the females in the films are treated horribly. Lois is used to carry Bruces heir to carry on his legacy. Mera is killed by Superman. The JL films are secretly just set up to be glorified Batman films.

[DisneyBoy]

Bleak.

Bleak bleak bleak.

[I'm a Fish]

Ive read them all in their original sizes...

Menalippe returns in JL1 to warn Diana of Darkseid, in JL2 Diana uses the Lasso to unlock Themiscryas location and it basically gives her a brief vision of "whats to come" which involves her as the God of War and killing Superman.

Diana is afraid of seeing Hippolyta again and being rejected by her but the opposite happens and Hippolyta orders a feast/festival like has never been seen on Themiscrya.

Dr.Poison whose been in the Amazon rainforest has been testing on herself throughout the years and found a way to prolong her life. She's been trying to find out where Themiscrya is and she manages to find it. As everyone celebrates, Poison unleashes a toxin on the island that kills everyone, including Poison herself.

Diana is dead until The Flash travels back in time to BvS and gets Bruce to change Darkseid from killing Lois. Diana is able to round up the Amazons to come back to Mans World to help defeat Darkseid. She ends up becoming Queen, the Amazons become ambassadors of peace and usher in world peace like the world has never seen.
Diana never becomes God of War in either film.

I know the Wonder Woman script probably hadn't been finished yet, but the movie had Diana straight up run into toxic gas and have no trouble breathing, while Steve couldn't get close to it without coughing up a lung.

I wonder if the movie writers had an inkling about Snyder movie plans and wanted to nudge it. I mean, Patty was of course involved in the project for the better part of a decade at that point and knew about Snyder's original plan for the Wonder Woman script (which she didn't like), I wouldn't be surprised if he gave her a layout of his full plan.

Also we should remember this movie would have changed, especially after Wonder Woman got a sequel. Patty probably wants Diana to return to her home in her own movie. But at the same time, if that was a dark future I guess Diana could have revisited her home in two separate movies and still have both be the first time.

[Last Son of Krypton]

The God of War vision was likely a subplot for future movies after JL2/JL3. Doing an evil WW storyline after Snyder's evil Sm saga concludes sound the kind of path they would've followed, no?

[WonderLight789]

Diana's reunion with her Mother will obviously take place in WW3 so if Snyder ever gets to make JL2, he'll have to abandon that..which is why in the new version, Diana doesn't go back to Themyscira and gets killed by Superman in the Batcave instead

Where does it say snyder will make jl2 and how do we know part of the plot already?

[SiegePerilous02]

The God of War vision was likely a subplot for future movies after JL2/JL3. Doing an evil WW storyline after Snyder's evil Sm saga concludes sound the kind of path they would've followed, no?

God, isn't there enough stuff packed in here already?

Setting up a sequel that may or may not end up happening caused some story telling issues in BvS (the Knightmare, which should have been the first thing on the cutting room floor for the theatrical release), it seems it would have continued here if this is the case. Focus on telling a good story NOW, not a tomorrow that might never come.

[ssupes]

The God of War vision was likely a subplot for future movies after JL2/JL3. Doing an evil WW storyline after Snyder's evil Sm saga concludes sound the kind of path they would've followed, no?

The thing is wouldn't that vision have more of a impact if they actually spoke more then five words to each other? Be the actual friends and colleagues depicted in the comics rather simply have a short conversation about killing things not belonging to this world?
And Zack wonders why his movies feel flat.

Question is who would be next after wonder woman? Aquaman, Flash or cyborg? Or maybe even bat... nah.