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    Default Mandalorian visual guide and novel cancelled

    https://www.slashfilm.com/mandaloria...uide-canceled/


    It's unclear at this point why exactly, it might be because of the Gina thing but the closest we have to an official explanation is the series is 'ongoing' so they'd have to continue publishing new versions practically every year. (The already published tie-in books however mostly say "season one" on them so I'm not sure why they couldn't do something like that). A novel would be even easier to not involve Gina, but that's only speculation without knowing what it was about exactly.
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    I don't really see why there would a need to cancel such stuff in the case of Gina, especially since recasting the character looks like the best bet at this point. If it was a case of there being a novel going into Cara Dune's origins then one only needs delay it until a new actress is placed into the role.

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    The answer is fairly simple even if it's not the whole story, it's just costly to do.
    Information tends to become outdated fairly quickly as new seasons or shows and film get produced and we know characters like Fennec will be appearing in Bad Batch. It's entirely possible that it might've contained spoilers which would be a no go, or alternatively things like that might've become outdated as new projects come on the horizon or plans change. Thus for something they'd have to release in the following year and the visual guides already being slightly altered year to year and in some instances inconsistent then it makes sense to hold off.

    Gina Carano might also play a role albeit a small one. To distance themselves from Gina and Hasbro even having pulled the merchandise it might look bad to have pulled her from future series only to sell her as her character even if it's only in a source book. This might very well be a situation where they may want to know if Cara Dune is getting recast to use the updated depiction to avoid any sort of bad press. There's also the aspect that Gina might've been involved in a production the source book alludes to and with plans shifting it needed to be excised.
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    Wonder if this might also delay a possible season 2 artbook that would probably arrive later this year (Season one version came out around Christmas last year).

    I'm particularly interested in artwork and concepts they'd have for Ashoka, Boba Fett, the Darktroopers and Luke.
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    Power struggle at Disney SW between the 2 factions. Gina gave them the ammo to hang her & they gleefully did.

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    There's is more than 2 factions so far there is at least 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLGO 13 View Post
    Power struggle at Disney SW between the 2 factions. Gina gave them the ammo to hang her & they gleefully did.
    How much of the fandom actually is on Gina Carano's side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    How much of the fandom actually is on Gina Carano's side?
    I’d suspect as many were vehemently against a woman and a black man being the lead heroes of The Force Awakens; a vocal super-minority, that makes a racket, but will have no appreciable impact on actual sales or popularity of the show... at least in part because they were probably annoyed at their being a low-key feminist angle to the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by godisawesome View Post
    I’d suspect as many were vehemently against a woman and a black man being the lead heroes of The Force Awakens; a vocal super-minority, that makes a racket, but will have no appreciable impact on actual sales or popularity of the show... at least in part because they were probably annoyed at their being a low-key feminist angle to the show.
    Barely feminist, if you ask me. Plus these same people probably called Dune an SJW/Mary Sue when she joined the show. I think Star Wars will survive their boycott

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Barely feminist, if you ask me. Plus these same people probably called Dune an SJW/Mary Sue when she joined the show. I think Star Wars will survive their boycott
    Exactly. The degree of misanthropic grudge required to actually use Carano’s firing as an excuse to not watch the show just doesn’t line up with people who were liable to watch the show in the first place - much like TFA.

    Disney LFL has likely figured out that, in truth, they stand more to lose by aggravating more progressive fans than they have to gain by catering to reactionaries. They gained more viewers for The Mandalorian by casting a large award-winning cast of POC and female actors (one of the unspoken advantages of representation - you can recruit more known talent because of how disproportionately neglected they usually are), and arguably lost more people in the Sequel Trilogy when they accidentally regressed from Boyega and Ridley and towards Driver,

    You don’t have to actually commit to progressive ideals to enjoy the fruits of pragmatic representation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by godisawesome View Post
    Exactly. The degree of misanthropic grudge required to actually use Carano’s firing as an excuse to not watch the show just doesn’t line up with people who were liable to watch the show in the first place - much like TFA.

    Disney LFL has likely figured out that, in truth, they stand more to lose by aggravating more progressive fans than they have to gain by catering to reactionaries. They gained more viewers for The Mandalorian by casting a large award-winning cast of POC and female actors (one of the unspoken advantages of representation - you can recruit more known talent because of how disproportionately neglected they usually are), and arguably lost more people in the Sequel Trilogy when they accidentally regressed from Boyega and Ridley and towards Driver,

    You don’t have to actually commit to progressive ideals to enjoy the fruits of pragmatic representation.
    Agreed. No knock against Driver, I think he did a good job, but Boyega, Ridley, even Isaac and Tran were all fairly wasted in their abilities.

    Plus, society is becoming more progressive (thank God!) and these regressive types need to realize their demographic is shrinking in relevance to pop culture (despite their best efforts otherwise).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Agreed. No knock against Driver, I think he did a good job, but Boyega, Ridley, even Isaac and Tran were all fairly wasted in their abilities.

    Plus, society is becoming more progressive (thank God!) and these regressive types need to realize their demographic is shrinking in relevance to pop culture (despite their best efforts otherwise).
    And again, the logistical advantage of pursuing diversity simply offsets what value Carano brought by herself to the series.

    Think about it - the cast of The Mandalorian’s finale went like this: Pedro Pascal (nominated for multiple Emmys), Ming-Na Wen (mutliple awards for voice acting and live action acting), Kate Sackhoff (multiple awards), Temuera Morrison (multiple awards), and Giancarlo Esposito (mutliple awards and nominations).

    Then you have Carano and Sasha Banks (Mercedes Varnado). Carano was one of two “stunt castings” in that finale, outmatched by those around her. And she walked herself off the show with stupid social media activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by godisawesome View Post
    And again, the logistical advantage of pursuing diversity simply offsets what value Carano brought by herself to the series.

    Think about it - the cast of The Mandalorian’s finale went like this: Pedro Pascal (nominated for multiple Emmys), Ming-Na Wen (mutliple awards for voice acting and live action acting), Kate Sackhoff (multiple awards), Temuera Morrison (multiple awards), and Giancarlo Esposito (mutliple awards and nominations).

    Then you have Carano and Sasha Banks (Mercedes Varnado). Carano was one of two “stunt castings” in that finale, outmatched by those around her. And she walked herself off the show with stupid social media activities.
    Yes, Carano wasn't a good actress at all. Even with Star Wars' spotty acting, it usually has good actors. But she just couldn't pull through. Admittedly she does bring more diversity than Pascal, but it wasn't enough

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