Batman (Bruce Wayne)
Nightwing (Dick Grayson)
Red Hood (Jason Todd)
Red Robin (Tim Drake)
Robin (Damian Wayne)
Batwoman (Kate Kane)
Huntress (Helena Bertinelli)
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)
Orphan (Cassandra Cain)
Spoiler (Stephanie Brown)
Azrael (Jean-Paul Valley)
Batwing (Luke Fox)
Signal (Duke Thomas)
Catwoman (Selina Kyle)
Commissioner James Gordon
If Damian's detective skill is not underrated, we would not get a comment like this :
Source:https://wesavegotham.tumblr.com/post...etective-skill (People can visit that page to know about Damian's detective skills).
My vote goes to Jason. His first comic that I've read is Lost Days, so I always think that he's a capable detective. But on Batman comic especially when 4 main Robins worked together, he became a sarcastic silly joker (pun not intended). And some Batfam fans only saw him as "punk rebel Robin" then somehow they conclude that he's the typical stupid bad boy who can only think with his muscle. Truly, whose gonna tell them that Jason is like the biggest nerd among 4 main Robin and the only reason he dropped out from school is that he had some "health problem"
Last edited by Light of Justice; 03-11-2021 at 01:20 PM.
I voted Jason, simply on the basis that I can recall more more stories where the older kids all show some detective skills, while Jason has a reputation as just the brute force guy - it’s not true, but you can hardly blame people for clueing in on RHATO’s style and ignoring it.
Like action, adventure, rogues, and outlaws? Like anti-heroes, femme fatales, mysteries and thrillers?
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Duke easily. the dude's intelligence has been one of his defining traits since his inception, his detective skills and his leadership were practically his power before he developed actual powers. the thing is, with writers like Hill, because he's the "family meta" his personality and skillset gets tossed or watered down due to minimization in order to focus on just his powers and/or so others continue to shine over him. then there are the subsect of older fans who refuse to acknowledge him as anything other than "boring" or capable of anything, and the tumblr types that are stuck on this weird mami-esque straightman persona for him where he's essentially the "in over his head normie" shaking his head with his hands on his hips as Batfamily's black friend.
I don't think he gets enough credit for the detective work he's been capable of, peeped Bruce's, Damian's, and Dick's identity, he figured out Alfred was "The Nest" and who the original Mr. Bloom was. the kid was a solid detective, now with his powers he should definitely be an even nastier detective because he can see things others can't (even excluding just being able to straight up see into the past of a crime scene).
Last edited by lemonpeace; 03-11-2021 at 01:51 PM.
THE SIGNAL (Duke Thomas) is DC's secret shonen protagonist so I made him a fandom wiki
also, check out "The Signal Tape" a Duke Thomas fan project.
currently following:
- DC: Red Hood: The Hill
- Marvel: TBD
- Manga (Shonen/Seinen): One Piece, My Hero, Dandadan, Jujutsu Kaisen, Kaiju No. 8, Reincarnation of The Veteran Soldier, Oblivion Rouge, ORDEAL, The Breaker: Eternal Force
"power does not corrupt, power always reveals."
Oh, you mean the appearance of detective skill on comic. I thought underrated means general fans tend to ignore it. Like on Batfam fanfic, fanart, and text post, fans tend to treat Damian as an impulsive, short-minded kid who jumps right on villain on sight. Basically, if there's a prompt :
Robin 1: The murderer is Mr.X!
Robin 2: *immediately runs into Mr.X then beat him to the ground*
Then Robin 1 is usually Tim or Dick and Robin 2 is usually Jason and Damian. And fans also often make incorrect memes from official comic, like this one :
Then fans conclude that the planner type is Dick, Babs, and Tim while Jason and Damian are "violent Robins who like shiny weapons". Even I often see some fans call Damian "feral Robin".
Sigh, fans also ignore that on his first appearance Damian deduced and could pinpoint Bruce based on his posture and mannerism as Brucie, when he never had any idea who his father before. I know that the moment when he threw Tim from T-Rex is more memorable, but still. He also has many detective moments Pre-N52 but general fans tend to focus on his violent moments.
am I the only one who feel it's pretty.....disingenuous to say Dick is "underrated"? like, I don't feel like there are very many appearances where he's not portrayed to be that far off from Bruce in just about every area. like at worst he's portrayed as not being the literal best but I don't think I've ever really seen him portrayed as being anything less than an exceptionally smart or a notably capable detective. but then again, somehow Tim has three votes even though DC consistently highlights he's effectively the One-Above-All of detectives. still, it's just weird that he would have more votes over someone like Jim Gordon or Huntress or Stephanie Brown other than picking based on popularity over thoughtful consideration.
THE SIGNAL (Duke Thomas) is DC's secret shonen protagonist so I made him a fandom wiki
also, check out "The Signal Tape" a Duke Thomas fan project.
currently following:
- DC: Red Hood: The Hill
- Marvel: TBD
- Manga (Shonen/Seinen): One Piece, My Hero, Dandadan, Jujutsu Kaisen, Kaiju No. 8, Reincarnation of The Veteran Soldier, Oblivion Rouge, ORDEAL, The Breaker: Eternal Force
"power does not corrupt, power always reveals."
Dick's detective skills and intelligence have been downplayed for a decade now compared to how he used to be written. More than a few fans find that annoying, clearly. Just because he's popular doesn't mean that certain aspects of his character aren't underrepresented in recent times.
Definitely bugs me (but I'd definitely say it started in the early to mid 2000s, and not a decade ago). Also, he's been called a not really a thinker by other characters and by some writers, which I hate. And often depicted as much less mature than he once was. But I was definitely thinking about the fandom when I answered. Of fanfic and fanart and how characters are described in general. Similar issues with Steph (like I said, though, not that I think she is at the same level, but just that she's very underrated in terms of capability in fic/memes/etc.). I haven't read enough of modern Red Hood (I'm not an anti-hero fan) to say how his detective skills are, but there are certainly some fanon perceptions/depictions of young Jason that are just so completely wrong to me, just not detective-related.
Last edited by Tzigone; 03-11-2021 at 07:09 PM.
One write-in for Maps Mizoguchi, please!