By Grayson I didn't mean Devin Grayson but the 'Grayson' series (2014-2016) - sorry for my misleading comment.
I think she was the one coming up with the 'Dick is bi' idea, but I'm not 100% sure.
Oh, you'd be surprised what open-minded straight women & girls fantasize about (Tim x Kon, Clark x Bruce, Booster G. x Ted Kord, Barry x Hal, etc)
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I mean, fans already go to war over DickFire vs Barbdick. Do we really need to add another side to the war by making Dick bisexual? Haven't there been enough casualities?
Fans should grow up, LOL.
... (insert character's name) vs. .... (insert another character's name) is ridiculous. Sorry that's just my opinion.
We were discussing that it'd be fun if Dick was bisexual, but DC will never ever make him that. And it doesn't bother me. My love of a character doesn't depend on their sexuality. The problem is the lack of (male) LGBTQ+ representation in the Batman franchise (or in DC comics in general.)
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Listen, I need that poly ship so bad. xD
But I agree, it's time for DC to embrace Diana's pan/bisexuality.
I don't think that was all a corporate strategy. I mean some of it sure, but Travis Moore is a queer Dick Grayson fan who would obviously draw him like that. He has before. It's his gaze. And because this was done under the Pride Pod the editor approving it was queer too.
Though, if Moore could have, he would have probably drawn a TimxKon cover.
Dick being confirmed bi doesn't necessarily mean there would be a third love interest on the same level as Kori and Babs. He's been with other women too who aren't brought up much so don't see why he couldn't be with men once in a while.
At the end though it will always come back to DickxKori vs. DickxBabs (personally I'm a Dick/Kori stan).
Even though, frankly speaking, they both should be, because it isn't a "one or the other" kind of thing and Dick makes perfect sense to be some kind of polysexual. (And for me, it'll be the thing that apologies for that weird queerbaiting thing they did having Nightwing on one of the Pride variant covers.)
You're right. That sure was one of the first covers they revealed.
Speaking of, I've heard-tell of Jason potentially being read as a form of queer angst. That said, between Dick, Jason, Tim, and Damian, Jason does feel the least likely to be something non-straight.
This! They know Nightwing/Dick Grayson has a huge queer fanbase who already headcanon him being bi/etc.. The deliberateness recognizable in this cover pretty much proves this is the case. And that is what is so infuriating about it, since it's very blatant queerbaiting 2021.
Just canonize his bi/pan-ness and get it over with.
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Isn't that true of most characters though?
At any rate DC did something with Dick that definitely makes him seem... straight, or at least heavily leaning that way. One of Raven's brothers has the power to cause people to feel insatiable lust. When he used his power on Dick... Dick did Starfire for an entire afternoon.
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After discussing the Bat-family... What about the Supes family?
After announcing Tom Taylor's 'Superman: Son of Kal-El' title, many Jon fans tweeted that finally, DC would have a queer Superman. However, I don't think Jon will ever be depicted other than straight. I have a hunch that Jon's main love interests will be: Saturn Girl (based on Bendis' LoSH), Mary Marvel (based on Taylor's DCeased), & maybe Naomi.
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What makes the case of Dick Grayson different has been that for decades he's been the most prominent and incredibly rare case of superhero comics catering to a non-straight male gaze. Even before "queerbaiting" was a thing as we recognize it now among media, a panel featuring Bruce and him waking up in bed together was what Dr. Fredric Wertham used as an example, along with the bondage themes in the Wonder Woman comics, to make his case for superhero comics indoctrinating homosexuality among children, among other things. The original Batwoman and Bat-Girl were primarily created to avoid such connotations.
In recent, more progressive years, DC has subverted some of these tropes by making Kate Kane and Diana explicitly lesbian or bi, which are great decisions that were a long time coming. On the male side, I feel that they should canonize Dick as bi or pan too, especially considering they've used him as a draw for queer men and anyone who enjoys reading about queer men for the longest time.
I don't think anyone is advocating for Dick to stop being attracted to women. Nor do I think there are many bi men who would not be attracted to Kori (also makes sense for poly-sexuality to be the norm on Tamaran anyway, which is why Kori wouldn't think twice about dating Dick even if he were bi or pan, or if Kori herself is canonized as bi or pan).At any rate DC did something with Dick that definitely makes him seem... straight, or at least heavily leaning that way. One of Raven's brothers has the power to cause people to feel insatiable lust. When he used his power on Dick... Dick did Starfire for an entire afternoon.
It is frustrating that when people suggest an established character come out as LGBT people protest, don't "change" this character make a new character.
And then here you have Jon, who's been a blank slate sexually until very recently, and they're making him straight.
Things are improving but we still don't have high profile queer men with DC. Nothing anywhere as prominent as Jon would be. A gay Jon Kent would be a headline making breakthrough character.
DC is suggesting Tim is gay or bi, we'll see if they have the stones to make it clear and not just hints, and then the next step would be whether they'll also let Conner come out as well.