DC LGBTQ+ Characters 2021 appreciation

[The Invincible Beawulf]

When Jay Nakamura was revealed in the solicitation cover, my first reaction was, oh Jon's got a new boyfriend now? (since people ship him with Damian) but if they're making it real then I'm not hearing the protest since people have been saying they want a new character, and Jon's new enough.

I had the same reaction :P

Eh, we know how this goes. When it's an old character they say "just create new characters", when it's a new character they say "it's woke agenda". There's just no winning with some people

Anyway, we shall see. There's some speculation that this Jay Nakamura guy is a reincarnation of Jenny Sparks, which could be very interesting.

*Eagerly waiting for the "Jon Kent is bi" thread on the DC forum* XD

Honestly I think this will not be regarded as controversial as Tim Drake's coming out

[ultradav]

"Make a new character!" is just like a way of deflecting the issue and trying not to sound like a total homophobe - usually. As we all know, there are extremely few new characters post Crisis (sadly) who catch on, and the problem with new characters usually is that once their creator is done with them, they fade away most of the time. Would love new characters too, but often that's just a dog whistle in this context.

The Jon chatter lately is somewhat amusing (yet dismaying) - it's not even a thing, it's not based in any reality, but people's reactions to it have been really over the top ridiculous.

[Vathlonian]

"Make a new character!" is just like a way of deflecting the issue and trying not to sound like a total homophobe - usually. As we all know, there are extremely few new characters post Crisis (sadly) who catch on, and the problem with new characters usually is that once their creator is done with them, they fade away most of the time. Would love new characters too, but often that's just a dog whistle in this context.

The Jon chatter lately is somewhat amusing (yet dismaying) - it's not even a thing, it's not based in any reality, but people's reactions to it have been really over the top ridiculous.

Rich johnson had told me that he is certain that Jon will get a queer identity because the sources that confirmed it are the same guys who told him about 5G before even the comic book writers of DC knew about it

[witchboy]

"Make a new character!" is just like a way of deflecting the issue and trying not to sound like a total homophobe - usually. As we all know, there are extremely few new characters post Crisis (sadly) who catch on, and the problem with new characters usually is that once their creator is done with them, they fade away most of the time. Would love new characters too, but often that's just a dog whistle in this context.

The Jon chatter lately is somewhat amusing (yet dismaying) - it's not even a thing, it's not based in any reality, but people's reactions to it have been really over the top ridiculous.

Totally. I loved Bunker, there he was, a new character, gay from day one, and now where is he?
Just making new characters only results in characters that fade away to obscurity usually.

[Will Evans]

Rich johnson had told me that he is certain that Jon will get a queer identity because the sources that confirmed it are the same guys who told him about 5G before even the comic book writers of DC knew about it

Any other characters besides Jon we should expect?

[marhawkman]

"Make a new character!" is just like a way of deflecting the issue and trying not to sound like a total homophobe - usually.

Um any time an existing character gets changed, in a major way peopel complain... especially if the change is seemingly due to out-of universe reasons.

As we all know, there are extremely few new characters post Crisis (sadly) who catch on, and the problem with new characters usually is that once their creator is done with them, they fade away most of the time. Would love new characters too, but often that's just a dog whistle in this context.

Welll... also.... what makes you think re-defining an existing character will stick?

It's more likely for a new character to stick if they do something, well.. new.. and don't just become "Robin #3" or whatever.

The Jon chatter lately is somewhat amusing (yet dismaying) - it's not even a thing, it's not based in any reality, but people's reactions to it have been really over the top ridiculous.

The fact it's NOT based on reality makes it worse, because people CAN'T know what's actually going on and need to make up everything. So it's rampant speculation about something people don't like.

[witchboy]

People complaining about a character "changing" sexual orientation isn't too different from the negative reactions some people have in real life when someone comes out.

[Vathlonian]

The best part of this Jon chatter is watching Jon’s detractors realize that Jon will never be erased and witnessing the sheer salt


DC will never retcon, kill off, or erase the gay son of Superman


Doing that would sink the entire Superman line and turn him truly irrelevant with no ongoings because of the sheer backlash


There is no universe where DC willingly jumps on that grenade and risk turning Superman into another Martian manhunter…a character that only appears as a co-star with no solo books

[kf26]

The best part of this Jon chatter is watching Jon’s detractors realize that Jon will never be erased and witnessing the sheer salt


DC will never retcon, kill off, or erase the gay son of Superman


Doing that would sink the entire Superman line and turn him truly irrelevant with no ongoings because of the sheer backlash


There is no universe where DC willingly jumps on that grenade and risk turning Superman into another Martian manhunter…a character that only appears as a co-star with no solo books

Son of Kal El is Jon's only chance for a spotlight since WB is still focused on Clark Kent Superman. If that title fails its over for him.

[witchboy]

I believe Jon as a character can survive beyond this solo title. If it fails, he still has relevance as Superman's son and can be a supporting character, just like many other supporting characters survive without a solo.

[Vathlonian]

Son of Kal El is Jon's only chance for a spotlight since WB is still focused on Clark Kent Superman. If that title fails its over for him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Less popular LGBT characters have survived worse setbacks because DC doesn’t want to be seen as homophobic by erasing them


The queer son of Superman…no way of erasing him without destroying careers and turning those comic book writers into pariahs of the industry


Assuming that these writers are suicidal enough to even try


The most reactionary comic book writers would set themselves on fire before taking this job

[kf26]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Less popular LGBT characters have survived worse setbacks because DC doesn’t want to be seen as homophobic by erasing them


The queer son of Superman…no way of erasing him without destroying careers and turning certain comic book writers into pariahs of the industry

You really believe Jon is safe if DC decides to reboot the universe again with a younger Clark?

[Vathlonian]

You really believe Jon is safe if DC decides to reboot the universe again with a younger Clark?

Do you honestly think that DC is suicidal enough to


1. Even reboot again when new 52 was a sales disaster, with younger Superman himself being the symbol of why it failed?

2. Put themselves in a position to erase a queer character in the era of cancel culture?


Think really hard before answering that question


Because the answer is that no…dc will do the exact same thing they did to Batman’s family and history to a limited extent

Preserve his family as much as possible not to piss off the fans

[kf26]

Do you honestly think that DC is suicidal enough to


1. Even reboot again when new 52 was a sales disaster, with Superman himself being the symbol of why it failed?

2. Put themselves in a position to erase a queer character in the era of cancel culture?


Think really hard before answering that question


Because the answer is that no…dc will do the exact same thing they did to Batman’s

Preserve his family and history as much as possible not to piss off the fans

1. New 52 was a success look it up, the line started to tank during DC YOU.

2. Your only source is EVS, good luck trying to accuse DC for being homophobes if they get rid of Jon.

[Vathlonian]

1. New 52 was a success look it up, the line started to tank during DC YOU.

2. Your only source is EVS, good luck trying to accuse DC for being homophobes if they get rid of Jon.

Confirmed by rich johnson…the same sources that leaked 5G


trust me when I say it is a given


Jon is here to stay


Deal with it