Wolverine vs the Thing (not Ben Grimm)

[Muadib]

The thing is way more complex than vampirism or the brood it has more in common with say the Phalanx? Has wolverine ever overcome the Phalanx infection?

Mutants are immune to Phalanx infection, which is why they are regarded as the core of resistance to assimilation to the Phalanx invasions. This doesnt convey immunity to other strains of the Techno-organic virus, just the Phalanx version.

[Cyke]

Mutants are immune to Phalanx infection, which is why they are regarded as the core of resistance to assimilation to the Phalanx invasions. This doesnt convey immunity to other strains of the Techno-organic virus, just the Phalanx version.

Strong House of X vibes going on here. The Phalanx being unable to assimilate mutants, but being able to assimilate their evolutionary conquerors*, is such an interesting concept.

*I say that for lack of a better term, since the post-humans and human-cyborg race aren't really their successors but their replacements, and the ones who end the mutant line of evolution.

[choptop]

They never do more than shoot glances at it, being a new dog in the kennel even, then the human character just nudges it for a moment, the dog doesn't make a scene, and everyone forgets all about it a moment later when the lights are turned off. Then all hell breaks loose.

That is why the blood test scene was so effective, the most unassuming human character before infection remained unassuming after infection until the last possible moment.

The humans just think it's a regular dog but the other dogs they know something is up right away.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Wolverine has some absolutely crazy smelling feats, like backtracking a bear across hundreds of miles of wilderness (IIRC) after killing it in order to find the hunter that had driven it insane by using poisoned arrows and recognizing identifying Katie Powers' siblings after their faces had been twisted by Masque and their minds had been scrambled by another Morlock by smelling their relation to Katie despite the fact that they were in a a massive crowd of Morlocks in the middle of the New York Sewers.

I'm comfortable with saying that his nose's feats combined with his human intelligence and his ninja/super-spy/X-Men training would make him incomparably better at detecting alien invaders than a crowd of dogs who have probably never met an alien before.

[Wildling]

The humans just think it's a regular dog but the other dogs they know something is up right away.

I fail to see how, they didn't do anything but notice a new arrival then forget about it, they don't even whine to their keeper about it.

Wolverine has some absolutely crazy smelling feats, like backtracking a bear across hundreds of miles of wilderness (IIRC) after killing it in order to find the hunter that had driven it insane by using poisoned arrows and recognizing identifying Katie Powers' siblings after their faces had been twisted by Masque and their minds had been scrambled by another Morlock by smelling their relation to Katie despite the fact that they were in a a massive crowd of Morlocks in the middle of the New York Sewers.

I'm comfortable with saying that his nose's feats combined with his human intelligence and his ninja/super-spy/X-Men training would make him incomparably better at detecting alien invaders than a crowd of dogs who have probably never met an alien before.

The point is that it's not supposed to smell like some alien at all, if it's in assimilated shape blending with something else, down to replicating existing health conditions.

[The Drunkard Kid]

I fail to see how, they didn't do anything but notice a new arrival then forget about it, they don't even whine to their keeper about it.



The point is that it's not supposed to smell like some alien at all, if it's in assimilated shape blending with something else, down to replicating existing health conditions.

In addition to what others have noted about the dogs actually noticing something weird about it, my point is more that Logan's a lot better at sniffing than a dog is and is much more likely to detect something off about a creature that is A) actually alien (even if they were actually able to hide their scent enough to actually fool regular dogs), and B) probably undergoing a bunch of weird chemical reactions internally if they are ready to become body horror at a moment's notice. Hell, in the latter case, his superhuman sense of hearing might detect the sound of weird construction slorping around a victim's guts.

[Wildling]

In addition to what others have noted about the dogs actually noticing something weird about it,

And I'm STILL scratching my head at this take. The only thing they notice is something new entering their field of vision, which prompt them to shoot a glance and then... go back to minding their own business and not behave any differently until the Thing willingly chose to reveal itself to them some time later. THAT's when the dogs freaked out and knew something wrong was up. That's... just the movie at this point.

I don't have anything to say about Logan not being able to sniff the Thing underdoing any kind of shapeshifting activity, if it was aiming for pray and Logan was around but that's just a)moot for this thread and b)seriously, if this was some urban environment and he knew the Thing was around, Logan would be smart enough to know that instead of indulging hunting instincts he should just call SHIELD or the F4 for some proper quarantining ops.

[shades of eternity]

Also, unless it's a perfect scent, the thing will smell funny in comparison to human beings.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-47627179

There's this lady that can smell parkenson disease and she's got nowhere near the fine tuned sniffer that wolvie has.

[Cyke]

Also, unless it's a perfect scent, the thing will smell funny in comparison to human beings.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-47627179

There's this lady that can smell parkenson disease and she's got nowhere near the fine tuned sniffer that wolvie has.

This implies that:

1. The lady is a mutant
2. Wolverine knows what Parkinsons smells like

[Shellhead]

Wolverine is often surly because he knows what _everything_ smells like.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Wolverine is often surly because he knows what _everything_ smells like.

His best friend's mutant power causes him to release a cloud of gas that smells like an eggy fart. He also gets along really well with a guy whose power is screaming loudly despite his own superhuman sense of hearing.

[shades of eternity]

to say his other best friend must be a real pain to hang out when it's bright and he's transformed (colossus would be able to be seen from orbit).

[The Drunkard Kid]

to say his other best friend must be a real pain to hang out when it's bright and he's transformed (colossus would be able to be seen from orbit).

Piotr's more of a potential de facto son in law than a best friend, IMO. OTOH, I think an argument can be made that Havok is his next best friend, so, y'know, your general point still stands.

[Cyke]

One of his sidekicks literally shoots fireworks.

[The Drunkard Kid]

One of his daughters literally shoots fireworks.

Fixed it for you.