Scarlet Witch/ Wanda Maximoff Discussion (Specifically about dislike)

[Rang10]

I remember that. Idk if it's exactly correct

Avengers fans arent so passionate, I really never see they dissing x-men

[GenericUsername]

AVENGERS:Children´s Crusade was a precursor for Avengers vs X-men SO of course the X-men were written as those "bunch of fools who don´t see how Wanda is they key to end decimation, what a bunch of ungrateful people" that was the intend to paint the X-men as the antagonist to make way for their little event, if we are going to talk about the bad writting Wanda got lest also talk about the bad writting the X-men got shall we? Chidren´s Crusade only had the objetive of bringing back Wanda, not end decimation and AvX was supposed to be done to end decimation but only partially and it went out of their way to paint the X-men as the villains of the story so of course it didn´t exactly got accepted by the fans as unbiased canon and Uncanny Avengers just sealed the deal keeping divided and opposed the A and X side.

At this point I think the story needs to grow organically by future writers not being led by editorial agenda.Let the characters have their stories and rest for a while before trying a new big event around it and this includes letting Wanda have her stories while allowing the X-men their own story with Krakoa, make a few tension moments between them when they interact with crossovers and with some interactions in between.

AvX was trash and anyone who read it knows it.

[Lucyinthesky]

I think it is more the x-men fans still resenting, Avengers fans doesnt care about x-men. I think the was called the complex

This is the Marvel comics forum so I would question exactly who has this complex, X-men fans have been happy with the new Status Quo with Krakoa, it just look like some Avengers fans, edit or mostly some other fans who have a big problem with it that´s the problem.Right now the biggest discussion on the X-forum are the new titles and the Gala.

AvX was trash and anyone who read it knows it.

Agreed

[CosmiComic]

This is the Avengers forum so I would question exactly who has this complex, X-men fans have been happy with the new Status Quo with Krakoa, it just look like some Avengers fans have a big problem with it that´s the problem.

I feel there's some levels of resentment on both sides, at least from what I've read on this website

[GenericUsername]

It seems there's still somewhat of a divide between Avengers and X-Men fans here

Maybe for some. But there are some of us that talk to each other a lot. These are just fictional stories in the end of it all.

[GenericUsername]

I feel there's some levels of resentment on both sides, at least from what I've read on this website

I don't think it's resentment. The story hits people differently. Krakoa is great to some people and some people fear extremism from it. I think it's just trying to tell a good story for mutant characters. I just want Wanda kept out of it. There's really no reason for her to be there. Because when it happens, we get what happened during Empyre that makes her out to be some magic novice.

[Lucyinthesky]

I feel there's some levels of resentment on both sides, at least from what I've read on this website

I think only certain topics bring it out and this happens even inside the A and X fandom while some other topics are less controversial.

Maybe for some. But there are some of us that talk to each other a lot. These are just fictional stories in the end of it all.

I don't think it's resentment. The story hits people differently. Krakoa is great to some people and some people fear extremism from it. I think it's just trying to tell a good story for mutant characters. I just want Wanda kept out of it. There's really no reason for her to be there. Because when it happens, we get what happened during Empyre that makes her out to be some magic novice.

Agreed

[CosmiComic]

Maybe for some. But there are some of us that talk to each other a lot. These are just fictional stories in the end of it all.

Yeah, I don't think anyone should take things too personally. I don't

Although it sometimes seems to me Marvel kinda wants that

[GenericUsername]

The thing that I do have resentment for is it seems like Marvel was purposely poking the bear to get everyone riled up for sales.

[CosmiComic]

The thing that I do have resentment for is it seems like Marvel was purposely poking the bear to get everyone riled up for sales.

Yeah, that's annoying. I do think some fans play into it though. Maybe not here, but elsewhere

[GenericUsername]

Yeah, that's annoying. I do think some fans play into it though. Maybe not here, but elsewhere

Some fans do, but keep in mind that's not the majority. Even here. But especially fandom wide.

[Rang10]

AVENGERS:Children´s Crusade was a precursor for Avengers vs X-men SO of course the X-men were written as those "bunch of fools who don´t see how Wanda is they key to end decimation, what a bunch of ungrateful people" that was the intend to paint the X-men as the antagonist to make way for their little event, if we are going to talk about the bad writting Wanda got lest also talk about the bad writting the X-men got shall we? Chidren´s Crusade only had the objetive of bringing back Wanda, not end decimation and AvX was supposed to be done to end decimation but only partially and it went out of their way to paint the X-men as the villains of the story so of course it didn´t exactly got accepted by the fans as unbiased canon and Uncanny Avengers just sealed the deal keeping divided and opposed the A and X side.

At this point I think the story needs to grow organically by future writers not being led by editorial agenda.Let the characters have their stories and rest for a while before trying a new big event around it and this includes letting Wanda have her stories while allowing the X-men their own story with Krakoa, make a few tension moments between them when they interact with crossovers and with some interactions in between.

They were written consistently and fans liked x-men being a-holes to avengers

[Lucyinthesky]

They were written consistently and fans liked x-men being a-holes to avengers

The fact most Avengers fans took this as canon during that event is precisely part of the problem.

And no, they were not written consistently at all: Scott went from seeing Hope as his grandaughter to beating her out to "prepare her for her destiny" and the X-men went from trying to keep Utopia afloat while trying to help the world to "lest just rearrange the world in our image" and succedenly Rachel Grey doesn´t even think to tutor Hope to help her with the Phoenix. Narratively speaking they were made into the enemy and the fact they were the wronged party in the first place was just forgotten.

But mostly I think X-fans were mad because we already has two previous crossovers that were going to give the final solution for decimation and the Avengers just came out of nowhere to attack the X-men for the Phoenix. I won´t talk for every fan but that´s really how things looked in the end and why even fans who liked to see the X-me interact with the rest of the marvel universe thought it was better for the X-men to have their own corner within it because marvel just can´t write a balanced story.

[BroHomo]

Wanda is the worse case because they lied to her about her kids. they kept gasligtning her...
the answer is "who cares". Writers are just pretending that everybody gonna agree with that.

Its strange all her fans eventually end up sounding identical.

It seems there's still somewhat of a divide between Avengers and X-Men fans here

I mean maybe. lol

[CosmiComic]

Some fans do, but keep in mind that's not the majority. Even here. But especially fandom wide.

That's true. I don't want to bash anyone. I'm just trying to encourage people not to be too combative. But you're right, it's not a huge group