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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Alternate timelines are alternate universes they branch out to become them. Reed Richards has a blackboard chart of this
    No, they aren't. Same universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    And where is that page?

    Ultiate doesn't has the x-gene? sure about that? Because Mothervine repowered mutants on earth 616, so I guess ultimate have the x-gene too
    Not on the same locus as 616

    Also I posted the page here

    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Wolverine says Wanda did more harm in the Day After M then Cassandra Nova. I presume because because she deleted the xgene from the human genome

    As for whether it was multiverse there's this as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    No. It is safe to assume that though after Secret Wars that they dont
    How could Secret Wars have affected those timelines in a way that undoing Wanda's spell wouldn't?

    And actually, what role, if any, will Secret Wars play in Hickman's era? The X-Men were involved, it's be nice to see some connections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    No, they aren't. Same universe.
    What if tales are alternate futures which are alternate universes. They all are happening at the same time. As future is relevant to us the reader

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Not on the same locus as 616

    Also I posted the page here
    The page I saw doesn't proof anything.

    Cassandra killed 16 millions and wanda herself was ready to fix it. Comic writers really love to exagerate

    they still have the X-gene so if they ween't depowered, Wanda wasnt dpowering mutants on multiverse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizashi View Post
    That's right, the whole Captain America thing... Huh. I'm learning and relearning all sorts of things.

    Was that book Endangered Species? I think I have that one.

    Edit: wait, their souls? How would that effect their mutations?
    Yep it was in endangered species

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    The page I saw doesn't proof anything.

    Cassandra killed 16 millions and wanda herself was ready to fix it. Comic writers really love to exagerate
    The page shows the effect of Wandas spell, read Endangered Species Pope Beast, Sorcerer Supreme beast, Hulk Beast, Barbie Beast all tried to find away to undo Wandas spell

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    What if tales are alternate futures which are alternate universes. They all are happening at the same time.
    That is not it works, every alternate timeline is a possibility of 616. they are within this universe, not another one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizashi View Post
    How could Secret Wars have affected those timelines in a way that undoing Wanda's spell wouldn't?

    And actually, what role, if any, will Secret Wars play in Hickman's era? The X-Men were involved, it's be nice to see some connections.
    All timelines were destroyed with SW; or at least that was the original intent in the aftermath of that story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    That is not it works, every alternate timeline is a possibility of 616. they are within this universe, not another one
    Every possibility is an alternate future which in itself is an alternate universe. They are within their own universes that most of the time end with the universes destruction as most What it's end badly. These what it's have universe numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Yep it was in endangered species
    Thanks, I'll have to reread that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    All timelines were destroyed with SW; or at least that was the original intent in the aftermath of that story
    Oh, okay, I see what you mean. I meant that I thought reversing Wanda's spell should've averted those timelines, right? Hopefully the question of timelines gets addressed sooner rather than later.
    Does it need doing?
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    Then it will be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizashi View Post
    Oh, okay, I see what you mean. I meant that I thought reversing Wanda's spell should've averted those timelines, right? Hopefully the question of timelines gets addressed sooner rather than later.
    It would have. But all they did in AvX is undo the block on the human genome they didn't repower any depowered characters. Then the t cloud was supposedly making mutants infertile according to Storm but think that was dropped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    That is not it works, every alternate timeline is a possibility of 616. they are within this universe, not another one
    Alternate timeline and alternate universe are interchangeable in Marvel.

    What you are describing is what is called a multiverse, a bunch of universes tied together for example to the 616. Then you get mega- and omni-verses.

    It was cool when the Beyonder was multiverse who entered the 616's multiverse.

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