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    That was petty of him considering some of his competing creative teams haven't gotten the same exposure as him but as someone said previously, this level of drama and desperation is not worth just a six issue mini-series in the first place. The state of comics seems dire as this is just a step away from putting pitches on Patreon.

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    Found this on JLQ vs Robins Twitter poll.
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    Someone took a screenshot.

    I checked his Twitter for 31/03/21 using Advanced search. Couldn't find it. Thought he deleted it.

    Then I checked @LaurenFoxWrites Twitter for that day.
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    He did delete it.

    But why? Either he broke some rule or was ashamed of how he responded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin30 View Post
    Found this on JLQ vs Robins Twitter poll.
    Eyd-zSaXIAM8x9Q.jpg

    Someone took a screenshot.

    I checked his Twitter for 31/03/21 using Advanced search. Couldn't find it. Thought he deleted it.

    Then I checked @LaurenFoxWrites Twitter for that day.
    Screenshot_20210414-073133_Chrome.jpg

    He did delete it.

    But why? Either he broke some rule or was ashamed of how he responded.
    He deleted it because people were bombarding him for saying that. I laughed at the tweet and got blocked lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofPrometheus View Post
    He deleted it because people were bombarding him for saying that. I laughed at the tweet and got blocked lmao.
    Do you have a saved copy of that tweet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin30 View Post
    No he did.
    People even complained about it.
    Right as the first round started he Asked everyone to vote for Robins.
    Ahh, i did not see that post.

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    Again, it really doesn't matter what fans vote for of what creators infer/don't infer - Robins was going to win, or be published regardless.

    The writer could have been Chuck Austen (or whomever your favorite worst writer is), and DC would have still churned this book out.
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    Any updates on the Twitter polls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    Erm... I don't think many of the fangirls of the Constantine show prevalent on Twitter ship him with Zatanna. I've seen more Constantine x King Shark tweets than I've seen Constantine x Zatanna tweets. This seems like a counterintuitive strategy lol
    My experience has been different. I've seen people expecting Zee to show up when on Constantine's show and on LoT just because he was there. They've been thrown together in almost every adaptation in the last decade except for YJ and DC Super Hero Girls. They were in JL Action, the Nu52 movies, the Smallville Season 11 comics and are often the core members of the JLD comics. Even if you don't follow them month to month, DC has done enough that even a casual fan would associate one with the other.

    Also, a lot of fangirls love the whole bad boy/good girl thing they have going on. lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by J. D. Guy View Post
    People do ship them, though in a "Two most prominent characters of 'X'" kind of way. In this case, Zatanna and Constantine are the two most prominent male and female (known orientation-compatible) magic users of DC. At least as far as a number of people are concerned. You see similar phenomena when it comes paring up known orientation-compatible LGBT+ characters (in and outside of DC), or when asked to pair up Black characters, how it boils down to "John Stewart and Vixen" mostly due them being the only two Black DC superheroes a lot of people bother to know about. Whether they are compatible in other ways that would make exploring them as a couple make sense and be worth the effort rarely ever gets examined.

    That's where the whole thing came from in the first place where some people feel Zatanna is often functionally just there to be someone relevantly recognizable enough to be seen alongside, and therefor "prop up", Constantine.
    Yep. Bat/Diana, Dick/Zee, Wally/Artemis, John Stewart/Hawkgirl, all exist because of adaptations.

    Personally, I think Zatanna could be a lot more than just Constantine's girlfriend and that the magical corner of the DCU could be more than just 'horror' and supernatural but this is the formula DC decided works and the one they decided to stick to.

    Quote Originally Posted by SJNeal View Post
    Again, it really doesn't matter what fans vote for of what creators infer/don't infer - Robins was going to win, or be published regardless.

    The writer could have been Chuck Austen (or whomever your favorite worst writer is), and DC would have still churned this book out.
    Yep. I think they may have thrown in Robins just to troll the competition. I'm sure it galvanized fans who may otherwise have not care about this.

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    Well, I guess that would show DC there's an audience for that kind of book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Well, I guess that would show DC there's an audience for that kind of book.
    Not really. That is just a ploy to get sales.

    We have had Batwoman who is LGBTQA with a few runs that were NOT derailed by editorial.
    Joe Glass's Pride is still ongoing.
    Aqualad had a successful OGN.
    Lumberjanes went 75 issues BEFORE getting a tv deal.
    Papergirl too.
    We have had plenty of books with LGBTQ leads that have lasted beyond 6 issues.

    The guy writing Batman right now has done a few of those and one almost became a series.

    The audience has always been there. Especially for a 6 issue mini series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    Aqualad had a successful OGN.
    What? When did he had a Ongoing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    What? When did he had a Ongoing?
    It wasn't an ongoing comic, OGN = Original Graphic Novel.
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    OGN is original graphic novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    What? When did he had a Ongoing?
    Original graphic novel, not an ongoing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    Not really. That is just a ploy to get sales.

    We have had Batwoman who is LGBTQA with a few runs that were NOT derailed by editorial.
    Joe Glass's Pride is still ongoing.
    Aqualad had a successful OGN.
    Lumberjanes went 75 issues BEFORE getting a tv deal.
    Papergirl too.
    We have had plenty of books with LGBTQ leads that have lasted beyond 6 issues.

    The guy writing Batman right now has done a few of those and one almost became a series.

    The audience has always been there. Especially for a 6 issue mini series.
    I imagine editorial probably has their own specific criteria for this and for the bottom line.

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