Everett Thomas: Synch Appreciation 2021

[JudicatorPrime]

She shouldnt though. She has no memories of the time they spent together in the Vault. The only recollection she has of him was the hour or so they were briefed she went in nad anything since joining the X-men team together. I dont know what she is supposed to smell off of him that should clue her in on having been close to him in the Vault. His scent that she grew accustomed to in there died when she did and he shouldnt feel any different than Sunfire to her

I understand your position, but it just doesn't hold. She knows what a rose smells like, even if the memory of ever actually holding a rose doesn't exist in her conscious mind. I suppose she also knows what various other things smell like, even if her mind was completely wiped. Why? Because the olfactory senses don't purge so easily. We usually see this sort of thing with dogs, who recognize their deceased owners, even after they've been placed in a casket. Laura's senses have to at least be as powerful as a canine's. She may not be consciously aware that she knows Everett, but the memory is there. But like I said, I highly doubt the writers go there.

[Havok83]

I understand your position, but it just doesn't hold. She knows what a rose smells like, even if the memory of ever actually holding a rose doesn't exist in her conscious mind. I suppose she also knows what various other things smell like, even if her mind was completely wiped. Why? Because the olfactory senses don't purge so easily. We usually see this sort of thing with dogs, who recognize their deceased owners, even after they've been placed in a casket. Laura's senses have to at least be as powerful as a canine's. She may not be consciously aware that she knows Everett, but the memory is there. But like I said, I highly doubt the writers go there.

She knows what a rose smells like bc she's smelt a rose before. If she never smelled a ghost orchid, then she shouldnt know what it smells like it. She knows what Synch smells like bc she currently lives in the same home as him not bc she as 100 years worth of experience around him. That time is lost; there is no memory. The Laura that fell in love with Synch does not exist and is forever lost bc she was never backed up in Cerebro. Its very cut and dry. If she ever gets together with him , it'll be bc she grows to fall for him as they are now, not bc she feels anything about their Vault time. Those memories simply are not there at all

[BroHomo]

I understand your position, but it just doesn't hold. She knows what a rose smells like, even if the memory of ever actually holding a rose doesn't exist in her conscious mind. I suppose she also knows what various other things smell like, even if her mind was completely wiped. Why? Because the olfactory senses don't purge so easily. We usually see this sort of thing with dogs, who recognize their deceased owners, even after they've been placed in a casket. Laura's senses have to at least be as powerful as a canine's. She may not be consciously aware that she knows Everett, but the memory is there. But like I said, I highly doubt the writers go there.

Gah I hope they don't...Synch doesn't need to be sniffing around
another of wolverine cast offs.
People may start to talk.

[JudicatorPrime]

She knows what a rose smells like bc she's smelt a rose before. If she never smelled a ghost orchid, then she shouldnt know what it smells like it. She knows what Synch smells like bc she currently lives in the same home as him not bc she as 100 years worth of experience around him. That time is lost; there is no memory. The Laura that fell in love with Synch does not exist and is forever lost bc she was never backed up in Cerebro. Its very cut and dry. If she ever gets together with him , it'll be bc she grows to fall for him as they are now, not bc she feels anything about their Vault time. Those memories simply are not there at all

Does that also mean that she doesn't have access to any of the skills/training/combat experience that she acquired over the centuries or whatever that she was in the Vault?

[JudicatorPrime]

Gah I hope they don't...Synch doesn't need to be sniffing around
another of wolverine cast offs.
People may start to talk.

I'm just saying, don't be surprised if some writer turns Laura and Everett into the X-men version of Jamie Sommers and Steve Austin. I realize that reference may be lost on some of the younger generation, but long story short, Jamie and Steve were engaged, but due to an accident Jamie lost her memory. After years of "will they or won't they" across both TV series, the two finally did find their way back together.

I find it difficult to believe that in a world where the memory is in the DNA that a writer won't at least consider finding a way to make that happen for Laura and Everett -- if the fans call for it.

[BroHomo]

I'm just saying, don't be surprised if some writer turns Laura and Everett into the X-men version of Jamie Sommers and Steve Austin. I realize that reference may be lost on some of the younger generation, but long story short, Jamie and Steve were engaged, but due to an accident Jamie lost her memory. After years of "will they or won't they" across both TV series, the two finally did find their way back together.

I find it difficult to believe that in a world where the memory is in the DNA that a writer won't at least consider finding a way to make that happen for Laura and Everett -- if the fans call for it.

I honestly thought you were referencing the WCW/WWF lol

And let's Hope their phone is disconnected lol

[Bunch of Coconuts]

Tell that to N'Sync. I mean it really does have a boy-bandish feel to it.

And imagine running into your multibillionaire boss, or your distinguished college professor and calling him Synch. Imagine calling Logan or Erik, Synch. Sure, it was a cool name once, but the gravitas just isn't there. Hell, I'd be happy if they called Everett by the name Gravitas. Synch just doesn't do it for me anymore.

I mean..."Magneto" sounds cornier to me than "Synch" does, but ymmv.

[Besouro]

This is an excellent point, because the senses do serve as a mnemonic database, especially the olfactory senses. Even people without superhuman senses recognize other people by scent. I don't know that the writers will play that up at all, but given all of the time that Laura spent with Everett, she'd have to be in a state of complete denial not to recognize that she knows that man. I mean really KNOWS that man, based on his scent.

Not only that, but she would also recognize her own scent on Everett.

People who have been married or cohabitating for a long time know what I'm talking about. You can often tell where your mate has been, and whom with, based on changes in their scent.

Ding ding ding.....bullseye.

Exactly!!!!!!

[Besouro]

I think you misunderstood me. I was referring to the time that Everett spent in the Vault. I was not referring to the time that lapsed while he was deceased.

Oh....ok.

Sorry about that but non-the-less we have just got Ev back in activity duty as a regular character after 20 years absent/dead. I don't want to see him just age up from late teens to semi grandpa looks in just 1 issue.

I want to see him grow over the many years and many stories and many events etc.

Yet, anyhow....he still wouldn't age given the points I stipulated about his very long (over 100years) proximity to Laura....unless Ev just decides to give himself a new hairstyle but still in his late teens.

Again my point still stands that his physical appearance does not and should not dictate mental maturity .

[Rev9]

Gah I hope they don't...Synch doesn't need to be sniffing around
another of wolverine cast offs.
People may start to talk.

Lol word, but seriously Laura's memories of Everett are only contemporaneous, nothing to do with the vault.She doesn't have the vault memories period.This is writers stirring drama, if there's any way Laura has a hint of Ev it's probably a few tit bits thrown to her by Jean.I know Ev is not the guy to impose the memories on her, but the way Jean conducts business with 'good intentions' these days..she's the suspect(after all why would Laura even hint in X-Men 4 that she should ask Jean for the memories..or something to that effect.That idea doesn't just appear from nowhere.Jean is probably playing inception here.

[Rev9]

Ding ding ding.....bullseye.

Exactly!!!!!!

What scent? They both have completely new bodies, there is no scent, from zygote or whatever cell they use for cloning, to fully formed Laura ,every cell in her body is new same for Everett.

[Havok83]

Does that also mean that she doesn't have access to any of the skills/training/combat experience that she acquired over the centuries or whatever that she was in the Vault?

No she doesnt. How could she? Those memories do not exist. That Laura is dead. The one in X-men was brought back to the point she was prior to entering the Vault

Lol word, but seriously Laura's memories of Everett are only contemporaneous, nothing to do with the vault.She doesn't have the vault memories period.This is writers stirring drama, if there's any way Laura has a hint of Ev it's probably a few tit bits thrown to her by Jean.I know Ev is not the guy to impose the memories on her, but the way Jean conducts business with 'good intentions' these days..she's the suspect(after all why would Laura even hint in X-Men 4 that she should ask Jean for the memories..or something to that effect.That idea doesn't just appear from nowhere.Jean is probably playing inception here.

Jean is the only telepath on the team and they have history. Thats why Laura would go to her

[Bunch of Coconuts]

It's a really awkward situation. Did the attraction between Laura and Ev during their time spent in the Vault happen because of a natural genuine attraction, or because they were "captive" together? "Stockholme syndrome" doesn't apply specifically, but a similar premise:

Are two people stranded on an island together who wind up banging each other only banging each other because they're stranded on an island together? If they had other...options...would they still bang each other?

All said, though, I couldn't care less about Laura as a character, and wish Ev was gettin' it with someone else.

[WallStreeter]

Synch describes his powers. It’s a perfectly cool name. He went from being dead to being an X-Man. Big jump.

[Rev9]

It's a really awkward situation. Did the attraction between Laura and Ev during their time spent in the Vault happen because of a natural genuine attraction, or because they were "captive" together? "Stockholme syndrome" doesn't apply specifically, but a similar premise:

Are two people stranded on an island together who wind up banging each other only banging each other because they're stranded on an island together? If they had other...options...would they still bang each other?

All said, though, I couldn't care less about Laura as a character, and wish Ev was gettin' it with someone else.

True ,I wouldn't go as far as calling it SS, but they were funneled if you will, into bonding because they had no way of escape and had to rely on each other to survive..that was the life they lived not by choice but circumstance.It doesn't belittle their bond at all ,but now that Laura has a clean slate and has no recall but has a default stance that 'she doesn't want to love him' then I think this bond if it is to revive should not be beholden to the past, but should grow organically.Sharing memories would feel contrived for me forcing Laura to go against her stance as if she were hypnotised by a memory that is not even hers to love Ev.The writers didn't need to prime her that way, I don't trust the writers to make a natural connection now.Memory transfer is just lazy and contrived