Joker goes to New York

[numberthirty]

And that is setting aside characters like Typhoid Mary.

[Captain Morgan]

Negative.

It's actually more like "In an underworld full of the likes of Bullseye/Foolkiller/You Get It?

The Punisher is probably a secondary concern who would still pretty easily murder Joker.

Hmm, if only Joker had spent decades navigating a criminal underworld full of talented and colorful killers and thrived off of it.

Oh wait.

[Guy1]

You know, if he does last long enough to make some connections, Joker teaming up with Mysterio would be scary.

[master of read]

You know, if he does last long enough to make some connections, Joker teaming up with Mysterio would be scary.

which one? there were a few of them.

[numberthirty]

Hmm, if only Joker had spent decades navigating a criminal underworld full of talented and colorful killers and thrived off of it.

Oh wait.

Existing in a relatively "No Killing..." universe.

On the other hand, Bullseye?

Does not have a whole lot of trouble going up against and killing a woman who is capable of leading The Hand.

Joker is a big fish in a little pond.

[Guy1]

which one? there were a few of them.

The one with the illusions.

No, but seriously, lets go with Beck.

[master of read]

The one with the illusions.

No, but seriously, lets go with Beck.

i think beck is a zombie or demon familiar or something. not sure what's going on with him now.

[Captain Morgan]

Existing in a relatively "No Killing..." universe.

On the other hand, Bullseye?

Does not have a whole lot of trouble going up against and killing a woman who is capable of leading The Hand.

Joker is a big fish in a little pond.

And you know Bullseye, he's always hunting down other criminals for justice. Oh wait. Bullseye is more likely to try and get hired by Joker than try to kill him.

Seriously. What is it about Joker that prevents people from critically examining their first thought?

[Guy1]

i think beck is a zombie or demon familiar or something. not sure what's going on with him now.

Huh. Alright then.

Does he still have the fishbowl at least?

[Guy1]

And you know Bullseye, he's always hunting down other criminals for justice. Oh wait. Bullseye is more likely to try and get hired by Joker than try to kill him.

Yeah, whether Bullseye targets Joker or not depends on who pays him to do it or if Joker buys his services first.

If you want to discuss Bullseye VS Joker, we have the Kingpin thread for that.

[numberthirty]

And you know Bullseye, he's always hunting down other criminals for justice. Oh wait. Bullseye is more likely to try and get hired by Joker than try to kill him.

Seriously. What is it about Joker that prevents people from critically examining their first thought?

Or already be on the payroll of someone who would want the Joker dead once he amounts to more than a mild headache...

For all of the talk about not taking much of a critical look, the whole "Joker Will Essentially Have A Free Pass In Marvel's New York..." is not a particularly critical look at how things would most likely unfold.

[Captain Morgan]

Nobody has said that Joker is going to became king of New York. He's going to eventually draw too much heat and get taken down. But the level of people that you're insisting will take him down is laughable when you actually look at his accomplishments. What is especially silly is that for all people who keep saying "it just takes one bullet from someone who wants to kill him," they are suggesting.this will be done by people who can also be killed by bullets.

[The Drunkard Kid]

One fun Joker thing for people on Punisher's tier is his penchant for leaving clues leading to a fake safehouse that's rigged to explode.

[numberthirty]

Nobody has said that Joker is going to became king of New York. He's going to eventually draw too much heat and get taken down. But the level of people that you're insisting will take him down is laughable when you actually look at his accomplishments. What is especially silly is that for all people keep saying "it just takes one bullet from someone who wants to kill him," they are suggesting.this will be done by people who can also be killed by bullets.

Which are all accomplishments that we know happened in a city where he is one of(if not the...) foundational bricks.

The idea that we can make an "Apple..."/"Apple..." comparison to a whole other city in a whole other continuity where the power structures are pretty well written into cement that has long since dried?

It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The Joker we know did not go up against an existing power structure getting to where he is.

[Aura Blaize]

Didn't Joker basically own the Legion of Doom and Lex JUST to show that he could and to prove a point?

Granted, Marvel New York has a LOT of superheroes, but I don't think Joker is getting quite the level of credit he deserves. I mean, plot armor or not, he routinely gives someone considered the world's greatest detective a challenge.