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    Post How come there are not many knock-off Avvengers teams in other media?

    I mean for the Justice League. Marvel have their own version call " Squadron Supreme". In Amazon's Boys, there is " The Seven". Then finally in the Invincible show, there is a team call " Guardians of the Globe" which consists line-up that are almost simlar with the JL.

    It's like the media barely make any parodies team that take inspire from the Avengers. Sorry, just want to let u know.

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    There's one in The Boys, I think.

    It's mostly because of how popular Superman was when he debuted. They wasted no time making movies, radio episodes and even tv shows of the guy. When he joined the Justice League, everyone got dragged along. Meanwhile most people don't even know The Human Torch was Marvel's first hero.

    Also Batman and Wonder Woman where super popular too. DC just beat Marvel to every medium with their heroes. It took until 2012 with the Avengers movie for Marvel to finally get a jump over DC. The X-Men and Spider-Man where always more popular than the Avengers until recently.

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    Human Torch wasn't Marvel's first hero, he was their second. Namor had already appeared before Marvel Comics #1, the issue that debuted the Torch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Human Torch wasn't Marvel's first hero, he was their second. Namor had already appeared before Marvel Comics #1, the issue that debuted the Torch.
    Oh. Mah bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAWtoyoto 432 View Post
    I mean for the Justice League. Marvel have their own version call " Squadron Supreme". In Amazon's Boys, there is " The Seven". Then finally in the Invincible show, there is a team call " Guardians of the Globe" which consists line-up that are almost simlar with the JL.

    It's like the media barely make any parodies team that take inspire from the Avengers. Sorry, just want to let u know.
    DC actually have two Avengers type teams, The Champions of Angor who debuted in 1971, and The Maximums who debuted in 2005.

    The difference between those teams and The Squadron Supreme is, no one at DC has ever put much effort into fleshing them out and making them more than parodies.
    Giffen and DeMatteis brought The Champions back Post Crisis, but they quickly faded away again. The Maximums haven’t even gotten that little bit of love.

    The Squadron meanwhile, have steadily featured in Marvel storylines since their own 1971 debut.
    Mark Gruenwald used them to great effect in a classic 12 issue limited series in the eighties, they were reimagined by J. Michael Straczynski in 2003; versions of Hyperion were used in The Exiles, and a version even joined The Avengers.

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    Maybe doesn't count, but I always thought the Justice Friends came pretty close...






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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    Maybe doesn't count, but I always thought the Justice Friends came pretty close...





    ^^^LOL, I always loved this take on the heroes!

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    The biggest example is the Vindicators in Rick and Morty:



    The V logo is essentially an overturned A logo, and of course the word "Vindicators" can be a synonym for Avengers.

    I think the reason is that the Avengers has no real distinct sense of identity that separates it from Justice League. It's a team-up of big powerful heroes who come together and fight crime and banter. Whatever satirical point you want to make with the Avengers you can make with the Justice League.

    The Fantastic Four, the X-Men, the Legion of Superheroes those are teams with a distinct and unique identity, not reducible to any single genre.

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    I remember the Justice Friends. It's the only Avengers knock off I can think of. Although I wasn't as familiar with the comics when I watched that show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    Maybe doesn't count, but I always thought the Justice Friends came pretty close...





    I used LOVE these guys when I was little, the monkey too (forgot his name).
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    Wasn't the monkey from a short called Dial M for Monkey? Did he even have a name besides Monkey? (The short's name was a spoof on Dial H for Hero).

    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Yeah, I think Ant-Man, Wasp, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver all appeared. I don't think Black Panther, Vision, Captain Marvel or Falcon did
    Yeah, Falcon didn't even debut until the 1970s. Mar-Vell debuted in 1968, Vision was also around then? Black Panther's early appearances were in Fantastic Four. I think the cartoon just predated those four being Avengers - the stories were lifted straight from the comics, even using the artwork.
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    The Avengers appeared in multiple Cap episodes, one Hulk, one Thor episode and one Sub-Mariner if I’m not mistaken. Only Iron Man didn’t have an episode ironically.
    Makes sense - Steve lived full time at Avengers Mansion after all, and for a while his solo stuff was World War II flashbacks - stories that weren't would likely have featured the Avengers.
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    The Justice League simply has a more Iconic line up and is seen as the more Iconic team. Also many of those member are synonymous with superheroes genre with many being the originator/codifier of an superhero archetype like Superman is THE brick archetype, Batman is THE dark hero, Flash is THE speed Hero, etc Marvel has several heroes who are equivalent of this like Wolverine, Spiderman, Dr. Strange but they aren't on one team and has years of stories together.

    Big and Iconic just works better for general audiences and fans which is why Justice League knock offs get used more. That is why you don't see Marvel ones as much because quite frankly alot of classic Avengers line up are meh. If I was using the Avengers knock offs it would be composite group like

    Captain Marvel (Supergirl/Captain America) THE patriot and powerhouse brick
    Black Panther( Iron Man/Batman/Captain America) THE tech Hero and rich guy
    Ares( Thor/Wolverine) THE team friendly antihero and The reckless hero
    Dr. Strange( THE Magic hero)
    Hulk( THE monster)
    Spiderman(THE teen hero)

    That is why Justice League knockoffs work so well because everyone is a clear power type or a role. In glance you can generally what the character is suppose to be doing and you get their personality. That is a little bit harder to with Marvel characters and the Avengers team BUT I am pretty sure this goes better if you ask for Fantastic Four knock offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Dexter thr show was funny, especially with Mandark.

    IMO the 90s is when televised cartoons started to be good
    Agreed. Dexter's Laboratory & PPG '98 are My Top Two favorites from this time period...


    Quote Originally Posted by 9th. View Post
    I used LOVE these guys when I was little, the monkey too (forgot his name).
    Dexter's pet lab monkey is known only as Monkey. Whenever Dexter isn't looking, Monkey transforms into a super-powered monkey named...

    Monkey


    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Wasn't the monkey from a short called Dial M for Monkey? Did he even have a name besides Monkey? (The short's name was a spoof on Dial H for Hero).
    Correct. Dial M for Monkey was also a reference to Alfred Hitchcock's Dial M for Murder (1954):

    https://dexterslab.fandom.com/wiki/D...nder%20General.
    Last edited by K7P5V; 04-07-2021 at 04:18 AM. Reason: Made Adjustments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Wasn't the monkey from a short called Dial M for Monkey? Did he even have a name besides Monkey?
    No he did not. Dial M for Monkey was just the name of the short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9th. View Post
    I used LOVE these guys when I was little, the monkey too (forgot his name).
    His name...was Monkey!


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