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    It’s cloning with extra steps.

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    No it's not cloning.
    The Krakoans are EEEvil!

    THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

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    The existence of something that was able to corrupt souls by eating lost memories is pretty strong evidence that the process is more than just cloning, even if that is part of said process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    The existence of something that was able to corrupt souls by eating lost memories is pretty strong evidence that the process is more than just cloning, even if that is part of said process.
    Its following Aristotle's philosophy that memories are souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    No it's not cloning.
    Before Trial of Magneto, they literally just grew a copy of someone's body in an egg and implanted the memories into it. It's cloning.

    If Hickman didn't have to deal with Marvel's metaphysics with souls I'm pretty sure they never would have come up to begin with.

    Also didn't X-force have multiple Domino's and Quentin's running around at the same time as well?

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    Saying that its just cloning means that the original X-Men are dead and that what's now running around are merely copies of them. After all ; Ben Reilly is not quite Peter Parker, is he ?

    (from the trailer of 1/26/2022)
    "...Does that sound too dangerous ? Don't worry about it. Come to the harbour magna where we can clone you and download all your memories into a clone. So it'l be like you've never shed this mortal coil at all ..."

    Sounds like this means that its not you returning but rather that something comes into being that is like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerlof101 View Post
    Saying that its just cloning means that the original X-Men are dead and that what's now running around are merely copies of them. After all ; Ben Reilly is not quite Peter Parker, is he ?
    Theseus' ship has long since set sail with our current bunch of X-men.

    Seriously, we are talking about a franchise where they retconned in the O5 having been brought to the modern day and sent back with their memories intact, at one point sentient hate bacteria were responsible for the bigotry of humans, Professor's Xavier evil fetal twin that he destroyed became a woman and genocided an island nation, and Xorn-Magneto-Xorn ramapaged across New York shoving people into ovens. The X-men being clones of the original is one of the things you'd have to suspend your disbelief for the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerlof101 View Post
    Saying that its just cloning means that the original X-Men are dead and that what's now running around are merely copies of them. After all ; Ben Reilly is not quite Peter Parker, is he ?

    (from the trailer of 1/26/2022)
    "...Does that sound too dangerous ? Don't worry about it. Come to the harbour magna where we can clone you and download all your memories into a clone. So it'l be like you've never shed this mortal coil at all ..."

    Sounds like this means that its not you returning but rather that something comes into being that is like you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saithor View Post
    Theseus' ship has long since set sail with our current bunch of X-men.

    Seriously, we are talking about a franchise where they retconned in the O5 having been brought to the modern day and sent back with their memories intact, at one point sentient hate bacteria were responsible for the bigotry of humans, Professor's Xavier evil fetal twin that he destroyed became a woman and genocided an island nation, and Xorn-Magneto-Xorn ramapaged across New York shoving people into ovens. The X-men being clones of the original is one of the things you'd have to suspend your disbelief for the least.
    Cloning is considered to be a form of biological immortality in real life. Seriously, look up the “immortal jellyfish” and how it produces younger clones of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Agent of Chaos View Post
    Cloning is considered to be a form of biological immortality in real life. Seriously, look up the “immortal jellyfish” and how it produces younger clones of itself.
    But that jellyfish just completely reverses it’s aging to a sexually immature stage. The resurrection protocols involve a completely new body and copied memories
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    It's cloning y'all Marvel confirmed it all ya faves who died pre Wanda's safe space are dead & gone clones are what remain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covetous_One View Post
    But that jellyfish just completely reverses it’s aging to a sexually immature stage. The resurrection protocols involve a completely new body and copied memories
    Yes, a completly new body grown from the stored DNA and recorded memory engrams of the original body - - which is the definition of cloning.

    *** Currently there has been no experimentation with placing a mutant mind in a husk that is not their own. Additionally, there has not been any open experimentations with combining the DNA of multiple mutants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micabe View Post
    Yes, a completly new body grown from the stored DNA and recorded memory engrams of the original body - - which is the definition of cloning.
    Yeah that’s why I see the “immortal” jellyfish as not a good example since it’s not forming a completely new body, but just reversing the age of the same one.
    “There is no defense against the Scarlet Witch's HEX!

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    Seems pretty clear that yeah, it's just clones. Not even clones with like the souls in them, just photocopies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    It’s cloning with extra steps.
    Agreed weed this .

    Those mutant resurrexting are clones X_x sorry but not sorry

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    It's cloning but it's not JUST cloning.

    I'm surprised this is even a question. The books state that a clone body is grown in the hatchery and the soul is placed into a empty "husk".

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