New Phoenix *spoilers* How y'all Feel?

[Exodus]

Nah, Thor is like Cable to Rachel, in that they share one same parent: The Phoenix Force.

don't forget Hope Summers. Also a Phoenix baby.

[Askani's Flame]

don't forget Hope Summers. Also a Phoenix baby.

Hmmm, since we don't know who the bio dad is, it's entirely possible that the PF is the daddy similar to Rachel. Louise gave birth to a Phoenix baby.

[Exodus]

Hmmm, since we don't know who the bio dad is, it's entirely possible that the PF is the daddy similar to Rachel. Louise gave birth to a Phoenix baby.

I'm pretty sure it was heavily implied in one issue of AvX that the Phoenix Force impregnated Hope's mother?! Or am I making something up here?

[Askani's Flame]

I'm pretty sure it was heavily implied in one issue of AvX that the Phoenix Force impregnated Hope's mother?! Or am I making something up here?

There have been lots of implications, and that is one. I thought in one of the Uncanny issues they went back to Cooperstown and heard from Hope's bio grandmother that some dude got her daughter pregnant, but we as readers never saw a face or details. So it's 100% possible it was the Phoenix Force all along.....like Agatha lol.

[Rang10]

Nah, Thor is like Cable to Rachel, in that they share one same parent: The Phoenix Force.

Rachel much less Cable are not canon that they are Phoenix's kids

[Phoenixx9]

So the lesson for everyone is to cover up your naughty bits tightly so the Phoenix Force don't getcha!

[RamaBird]

Everything I've heard about this storyline is so stupid that I was actually happy to find out it was Echo!

I expected it to be predictable.

Anyway, it's still a reveal that won't stand time.

[Filthy Mutie]

Exasperated. Who cares about the Phoenix Force? The X-Men franchise ran the concept well into the ground several years ago. Now they're shopping it around the other Marvel heroes? Yawn, man. Who is this story even for? Why does it seem to be going on and on and on and on?

[BroHomo]

Exasperated. Who cares about the Phoenix Force? The X-Men franchise ran the concept well into the ground several years ago. Now they're shopping it around the other Marvel heroes? Yawn, man. Who is this story even for? Why does it seem to be going on and on and on and on?

It's kinda sad a comic book concept so overdone...so pulverized any new perspectives, of hidden nuances have been reduced to ashes.



BUT From those ashes rises...
Another Phoenix story.

le sigh

[Askani's Flame]

Rachel much less Cable are not canon that they are Phoenix's kids

I never said Cable was. But Rachel has been hinted at being the child of Jean and the PF for years by Claremont, most evident in Uncanny X-Men Annual 14. Bigger push for that in the recently released 140.5 issue he penned. But still, I don't care either way, it's just fun to think of her and Thor as quasi siblings and how she beat the snot out of him.

[king of hybrids]

I’m pretty sure making Phoenix Thor’s mom is one of the few Avengers/X-Men pissing match retcons that no-one likes

[TheDeadSpace]

So, they essentially just turned the Phoenix force and role into just another normal superhero mantle? Marvel seems obsessed with doing this with characters these days, especially when it doesn't seem earned.

[cam18]

Give Jean Grey her Phoenix back. Sorry! It belongs to her or Rachel. Everything else is a wrong decision.

THIS if it ain't Jean or Rachel Grey it doesn't matter the concept has been run into the ground sadly with all these other characters......PF is best used sparingly imo and not only that but also not always used as some kind antagonist either.