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    Default Has Zatanna ever paid for her mind wipes?

    Honestly one of my biggest problems with her is while I love the character she just has mind wiped people and has recieved no consequences for it. I honestly feel like maybe something should have happened where it makes her decide to never do it again and for the plot line to never be used. An idea I have is for her and Constantine's kid to be brought into main stream canon and have it be revealed the kid's existence was erased from both their memories because of how powerful she was.

    I think this would be a good arc for Constantine as well because I can see him doing a lot of morally questionable things for his daughter's safety even going against the League. Essentially my idea is for Zatanna to fight a super villain and learn about her daughter then for Zatanna to mind wipe people for her kid's safety but for her to go too far (like wiping her daughter's friends and crush) and for her daughter to snap and mind wipe Zatanna to the point where Zatanna is temporarily catatonic. I could then see John having to step up and I know this sounds odd but I do like the idea of John taking care of a kid and a amnesiac Zatanna.

    As mentioned before I love this idea because I do like the idea of John being a father and having to protect his kid and Zatanna I can even see him becoming Doctor Fate and I love the idea of him and Zatanna raising a powerful kid while arguing how to raise her. I also think Zatanna raising a powerful daughter with no self control would make for an interesting plot as well.

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    She doesn't have to pay for what never happened. Got it?

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    Her entire timeline was erased and rewritten, so yes she did

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    Forget that trash story alongside WW killing Max Lord.

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    Flashpoint absolved us of all our sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Forget that trash story alongside WW killing Max Lord.
    DC won't let us
    #InGunnITrust, #ZackSnyderistheBlueprint, #ReleasetheAyerCut

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    I'm not a fan of fictional characters having to 'pay' for horrible writing decisions. It's the writers whose pee-pees should be smacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    I'm not a fan of fictional characters having to 'pay' for horrible writing decisions. It's the writers whose pee-pees should be smacked.
    Exactly. I have no interest in seeing Zee or any of the other Satellite League paying for this. I don't want to see Bats pay for OMAC, War Games, or a whole slew of shit. I don't want to see Hal still paying for Parallax or the epic fail of the Arisha relationship. Sick of seeing Max Lord brought up for Wonder Woman. Cass Cain shouldn't have to pay for the OYL stuff.

    It should all fall into the "let us never speak of it again" category

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    Exactly. I have no interest in seeing Zee or any of the other Satellite League paying for this. I don't want to see Bats pay for OMAC, War Games, or a whole slew of shit. I don't want to see Hal still paying for Parallax or the epic fail of the Arisha relationship. Sick of seeing Max Lord brought up for Wonder Woman. Cass Cain shouldn't have to pay for the OYL stuff.

    It should all fall into the "let us never speak of it again" category
    Man, I'm so tired of people bring up Diana killing Max as the excuse for why she's a "cold blooded killer". They never bring up Batman and Brother Eye, or locking KGBeast in a closet to starve to death.

    Even Zatanna's mind wiping habits have been largely forgotten (I haven't read much Hal Jordan's Green Lantern so idk if that's still a thing, I don't hear many people talk about it regardless).
    I guess if Man of Steel did anything "right" it took some of the pressure of Diana with Clark killing Zod. Only problem is people know Superman doesn't really do that, but they don't know Wonder Woman doesn't really do that either.

    DC just won't let Diana shake it off. Hopefully the movie showed DC they can finally move past it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm a Fish View Post
    Man, I'm so tired of people bring up Diana killing Max as the excuse for why she's a "cold blooded killer". They never bring up Batman and Brother Eye, or locking KGBeast in a closet to starve to death.

    Even Zatanna's mind wiping habits have been largely forgotten (I haven't read much Hal Jordan's Green Lantern so idk if that's still a thing, I don't hear many people talk about it regardless).
    I guess if Man of Steel did anything "right" it took some of the pressure of Diana with Clark killing Zod. Only problem is people know Superman doesn't really do that, but they don't know Wonder Woman doesn't really do that either.

    DC just won't let Diana shake it off. Hopefully the movie showed DC they can finally move past it.
    The Hal stuff is often brought up by those who dislike the character now, but I don't think it's brought up in the comics themselves that much anymore. I think Morrison even did a "tour" of some of Hal's old school live interests, but wisely skipped over Arisha.

    IDK, the movie attempted to move Diana past that, then then Snyder Cut happened, so who even knows now

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