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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    Er, I'm not a big fan of any type of propaganda as I feel people should think for themselves.
    People can think for themselves, I agree, so maybe propaganda isn't the right word. But we can only think based on what we know, so some messages can better inform us than others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    Er, I'm not a big fan of any type of propaganda as I feel people should think for themselves.
    Are Aesop's fables propaganda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionaryFan View Post
    Are Aesop's fables propaganda?
    Huh, WTH!?

    I'm legit confused by your message.

    Propaganda

    "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

    Fable

    "A short story, typically with animals as characters, conveying a moral."

    The two are nothing alike. One is a tool of manipulation whereas the other is a teaching tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
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    Hmmm? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionaryFan View Post
    Hmmm? I don't get it.
    See my modified previous post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    Huh, WTH!?

    I'm legit confused by your message.

    Propaganda

    "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."

    Fable

    "A short story, typically with animals as characters, conveying a moral."

    The two are nothing alike. One is a tool of manipulation whereas the other is a teaching tool.
    Right. Well, I basically thought Frozen was a fable. Like a lot of children's stories. Nothing more than that. So describing Frozen as propaganda felt extreme to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionaryFan View Post
    Right. Well, I basically thought Frozen was a fable. Like a lot of children's stories. Nothing more than that. So describing Frozen as propaganda felt extreme to me.
    I never said it was propaganda. I was responding to Mik's post saying I dislike propaganda in general not that I think Frozen is propaganda. And my other post was a joke thus the winky face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    I never said it was propaganda. I was responding to Mik's post saying I dislike propaganda in general not that I think Frozen is propaganda. And my other post was a joke thus the winky face.
    I think my definition of propaganda was off. I thought it meant "information promoting a certain view", but I now think that's incorrect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    I never said it was propaganda. I was responding to Mik's post saying I dislike propaganda in general not that I think Frozen is propaganda. And my other post was a joke thus the winky face.
    Yes, that's what I thought. I wasn't accusing you of calling it propaganda. I was just conversing on the topic. Nothing more.

    EDIT: I was referring to Peterson calling it propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionaryFan View Post
    Yes, that's what I thought. I wasn't accusing you of calling it propaganda. I was just conversing on the topic. Nothing more.
    Okay, I see now, no harm no foul. I was seriously confused by your direct response. I thought you upset with me for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    Okay, I see now, no harm no foul. I was seriously confused by your direct response. I thought you upset with me for some reason.
    lol. Not at all. Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    I think a lot of people are missing the point here. It's not that Peterson is the model for Red Skull, it's that rhetoric like Peterson's is used by alt-right types to lead folks down that pipeline.
    Exactly.

    It’s not “Red Skull is Jordan Peterson”, it’s a lot of alt-right types use those sort of tactics to re-purpose their message.

    People seem to forget that the Alt-right is just a repackaged form of Nazism. It’s not that Peterson himself is a Nazi, just that modern day Nazis are using these tactics to recruit young and impressionable people.

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    I really like this video describing the situation:



    Specifically 9:29-15:00. He makes an interesting point with regards Peterson's whole Cultural Marxism spiel.

    Also, can someone tell me which issue of Captain America is displayed at 5:20? I want to know if Coates wrote that issue also...

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    What's even funnier about this situation is that people are trying to go after Coates but he deleted his Twitter years ago.

    The guy had over a million twitter followers but deleted it when he was feuding with Cornel West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionaryFan View Post
    I really like this video describing the situation:



    Specifically 9:29-15:00. He makes an interesting point with regards Peterson's whole Cultural Marxism spiel.

    Also, can someone tell me which issue of Captain America is displayed at 5:20? I want to know if Coates wrote that issue also...
    Vaush got caught in 4K being against the age of consent so you should've picked a better video.

    The book at 5:20 should be Steve Rogers: Captain America by Nick Spencer.
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