DC and MC - What are your likes and dislikes?

[green_garnish]

There's a common theme here that there are DCEU fans and MCU fans and never the twain shall meet, and the preference will forever taint the validity of your opinion on the other. So let's find out where we all really stand. Because there's a disproportionate number of MCU films, I'm not claiming a start of either universe.

Likes
Spiderman 1 & 2
Superman I & II
Batman 66, 89, and Returns
Iron Man 1
Thor 1 & 2
Captain America 1, 2, 3
Avengers 1, 2, 3, 4
GotG 1
Ant Man 1
Wonder Woman
Aquaman

Meh
all the other Marvel films except Ragnarok
WW84

Dislike
Netflix Marvel
Snyder superhero anything
Ragnarok

[Vakanai]

Dislike:
Marvel - The MCU's "sameyness"
DC - The DCEU's crappy/divisive movies (mostly Snyder-influenced)

Like:
Marvel: X-Men 1 & 2, Spiderman 1 & 2, Iron Man 1, Deadpool 1 & 2, Ant-Man 1 & 2, GotG 1 & 2, Avengers IW & EG, the Netflix series
DC: Superman 1 & 2, Batman & Batman Returns, Batman Begins & The Dark Knight, Wonder Woman 1, Shazam, Joker, the animated movie line largely

[CosmiComic]

I like most Marvel movies and DC movies, tbh

[Somecrazyaussie]

Dislike -
Marvel - the cookie cutter nature of the films with the same narrative framework (akin to changing the paint on the same house) and intrusive humour that often is to the detriment of any seriousness
DC - the same grim colour palette, poor pacing, lack of character development, unnecessary darkness and failure to adhere to a concise narrative (all Snyder films).

Like -
marvel - Iron man 1, Captain America 1 - 3, Ant-man 1 & 2, X-men 2 and Days Of Future Past, Spider-man 1 & 2, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, GoTG 1, Avengers 1, 2 and Infinity War, Thor 1, Incredible Hulk, Deadpool 1 and 2,
DC - Superman 1 & 2, Batman/Batman Returns/Batman Forever, Joker, Batman Begins & TDK, WW and WW 84.

[Username taken]

The only superhero movies I outright dislike in the last few years are:

1. Batman vs Superman
2. Thor the Dark World
3. The Amazing Spiderman 1 and 2
4. New Mutants (don't get me started on the ridiculous racist casting)
5. X-men: Dark Phoenix

I absolutely love the varied tone of the MCU. They've given us totally serious movies like the Black Panther, Hulk and the Captain America, mixed toned movies like Captain Marvel, the Iron man movies and then lighter stuff like Ant-man and Spider-man. But Thor the Dark World didn't work at all, it was far too ordinary and Thor really didn't have anything interesting to do. The overall quality of the MCU has been staggering and their presence in pop culture today just shows how much they've connected with audiences.

WB/DC have learnt that not everything needs the darker touch and that's good. Movies like Superman and Wonder Woman don't need a specifically "serious or light" tone, they just need to be in-between (like the first Wonder Woman or the Captain America movies).

The Amazing Spider-man movies didn't work in anyway, shape or form for me. The Fox X-men series flamed out and the last couple of films there were utter garbage.

[Vakanai]

I absolutely love the varied tone of the MCU. They've given us totally serious movies like the Black Panther, Hulk and the Captain America, mixed toned movies like Captain Marvel, the Iron man movies and then lighter stuff like Ant-man and Spider-man.

I always find it weird when discussing the tone of MCU films, because I swear to me all those movies literally did not differ in tones at all. Some plot elements sure, but not the tone in which those elements were presented.

[Username taken]

I like most Marvel movies and DC movies, tbh

Same here.

I really don't dislike most of the movies.

There are just a few that didn't work for me.

[CosmiComic]

It's an interesting discussion.

But movies like Black Panther and Ant-man have almost nothing in common except they were both made by Marvel. Same with Winter Soldier and GoTG, completely different tones. If WB made BP or Fox made Winter Soldier, no one would say they have similar tones to the other MCU movies I mentioned.

I think the only thing the MCU movies I mentioned might have in common is the color grading but the movies themselves are tonally very different.

I agree. I think it's just a matter of perception. there is a window the MCU stays in, meaning it's never too graphic or vulgar, yet never too kiddish, but somewhere in the middle, so that might be what people are referring to. But within that, I don't think the movies are too alike, especially ones where the directors have made it into their own style

Same here.

I really don't dislike most of the movies.

There are just a few that didn't work for me.

I don't even dislike BvS. Batman and Robin is garbage though

[abetterday]

My main dislike is that the cbm are not resulting in an increase in comic book knowledge or sales. It's evident after the recent Ray Fisher controversy of racism and misconduct on the JL reshoot set with Whedon. On social media it seems that people just expected for Cyborg to say the cathphrase 'Booyah' but anyone that had read the New Teen Titans version of Cyborg from the 80s by Marv Wolfman and George Perez, would know that he would never say 'Booyah'. So this made me realize that most are not going back and reading the comic books that are associated with the characters in the comic book movies.

A good remedy for this imo would be to make a daily Superhero show minus all of special effects and cgi. Not soap operas but more like Law and Order tv series that can be seen every weekday. And a serial comic book will be published parallel to the events in the daily tv show.

[Vakanai]

I agree. I think it's just a matter of perception. there is a window the MCU stays in, meaning it's never too graphic or vulgar, yet never too kiddish, but somewhere in the middle, so that might be what people are referring to. But within that, I don't think the movies are too alike, especially ones where the directors have made it into their own style

I disagree. The humor, brevity, lightness, sfx and visual style are all identical. I also think these films are so factory and committee made that directors don't leave much of their style on these films at all. The director's are largely plugged/slotted in, and you'd basically get the same movie no matter who was in the director's chair.

[Castle]

There's a common theme here that there are DCEU fans and MCU fans and never the twain shall meet, and the preference will forever taint the validity of your opinion on the other. So let's find out where we all really stand. Because there's a disproportionate number of MCU films, I'm not claiming a start of either universe.

Likes
Spiderman 1 & 2
Superman I & II
Batman 66, 89, and Returns
Iron Man 1
Thor 1 & 2
Captain America 1, 2, 3
Avengers 1, 2, 3, 4
GotG 1
Ant Man 1
Wonder Woman
Aquaman

Meh
all the other Marvel films except Ragnarok
WW84

Dislike
Netflix Marvel
Snyder superhero anything
Ragnarok

Fun thought, Netflix marvel was a bigger deal among the fandom than the movies, fans were more invested in Netflix marvel because they could relate to the stories more. netflix marvel was more grounded and mature in story telling with flawed characters. however they got the boot like the star wars expanded universe. highlighting a far bigger problem that goes on with big studios who favour less creative diversity.