I like Roy but was really hoping he'd stay dead for a bit longer. Why? I don't really feel like he adds much to any team or story he's in. He doesn't check off any boxes. To me, Roy needs some sort of role.
Last edited by atomicskull; 04-17-2021 at 07:36 AM.
DC should branch out Green Arrow based on the types of arrows that they chose as a weapon. Like virtual/invisible arrows or arrows made of fire as hot as the sun. That way each Arrow member can have a role to play.
He has the ex-junkie and single father thing going for him but those elements don't work when continuity has been in flux for more than a decade. He is also in a morally gray area compared to other side kick characters. This was a guy who easily moved from hanging with the Titans to working with the Suicide Squad to Titans again to joining the Justice League. He's also not out of place working with the Red Hood and the Outlaws.
Roy might benefit from a writer who wants to explore the morally gray area that he inhabits. Though in the long run, I would like to see a writer explore a world in which his daughter grew up and became a superhero.
"My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
Not to distract from the Roy discussion, but the parts with Ollie and Dinah are why I prefer Dinah to be far, far away from Ollie. The Dinah I read about in Birds of Prey was a kickass heroine who neither needed to be in a relationship nor was defined by one. Every time I see her with Ollie, she is at best defined by being Ollie's girlfriend, or at worst, serves as little more than his living sex doll. One's a character in her own right, the other is nothing more three or four generations' idea of a fantasy girlfriend who exists only to be a fantasy girlfriend.
If this were reddit, I'd be getting nothing but down votes, but I stand by what I said.
Oh, it's not just "a single page in a comic book."
It's the entire Mike Grell & Mike Gold run on Green Arrow in the late 80's-early 90's. The one where they wanted her and Oliver's relationship to continue, but not her career as a crime-fighter. Instead, they stripped her of her costume, her desire to fight crime, her super-power, and her ability to conceive children, but had her serve as Ollie's live-in lover and the only one financially supporting them.
It's the Kevin Smith run on the next volume of Green Arrow, during which they asked the Birds of Prey team to turn over complete editorial control of Black Canary over to them (and thus write her out of BoP) so she could be put back together with Green Arrow 'where she belongs'.
It's Dan Didio making an editorial decree to put her back with Green Arrow and out of the Birds as soon as Gail Simone was no longer writing BoP, and whoever put together that Black Canary mini that was published bi-weekly at the same time Simone's original run's last two issue were being published. The one in which Green Arrow was the one who resolved the situation, behind Canary's back and without telling her, so the bad guys would believe her reaction, and in which he later admitted he'd do the same thing all over again because he loved her (*gag*), oh, and hey, will you marry me?
It's decades of DC and its creators treating Black Canary as a character whose primary purpose, above and beyond being a super-heroine, is being Green Arrow's girlfriend and junior partner. Forgive me for not drinking the kool-aid.
Last edited by juan678; 05-11-2021 at 03:11 PM.