I don't know why this is surprising. This version of Black Adam has never shown feats that match the crazy things this version of Superman has done.
I'm aware of that, but it's usually the case that characters often don't have feats beforehand when they match or beat another character who does have feats. That's how scaling works.
They've often been portrayed peers in pre crisis and post crisis continuity. There's a reason why so many people want to see Dwayne Johnson's Black Adam fight Cavill's Superman, its because the concept of the matchup itself is both plausible and cool. I doubt his Adam would have the same level of feats beforehand if they do end up fighting.
Anyway, I'm hoping that we do see a fight between them in the next issue. I can see them having a reason to fight given that conflict has been teased. And it would be cool to see them duke it out. I'm a bit tired of Superman having superiority over every other character.
But superman IS superior to every other dc character.
I always see superman a Lil more physically powerful than Billy and Diana,and even more than Jonn, but Billy has magic, diana has skill and weapons, and Jonn has all his non superman powers for them to give him a run for his $.
Created from 2 of the greatest men,made with 2 powersets thst are both SUPER,and has 2 cool asf looks and attitudes.
As I said, I don't particularly mind Superman being slightly stronger, but a lot stronger is lame and doesn't align with previous depictions. In their pre crisis and post crisis fights, they were pretty much in the same ballpark strength wise, although yeah Supes was stronger. Just not by a huge amount as what SEEMS to be the case here.
Tho tbf Hawkgirl also hurt Brutus more than Adam. Given that hes being hyped up as a League busting threat I imagine he will come back for more.
The problem I find with this argument always come down to Black Adam and Shazam's ill defined abilities vs. Superman's overexposure of abilities.
I mean how strong is Black Adam really? We'll never really know, the only thing we know for certain is that if a character has similar abilities to Superman, Superman's will always be superior!
We can use Billy as a metric for Adam's powers. We know that, as far as physical ability and power goes, those two are essentially identical. So if Billy can punch Clark hard enough to give him a bloody nose, so can Adam. If Billy can channel magic through that punch and bypass Clark's durability, so can Adam.
And Adam is infinitely more ruthless and, I've always thought, a more skilled fighter (not to mention a ton more experienced) than either Billy or Clark.
And if we're in a situation like this, where neither Billy nor Adam have been showcased enough for us to really know where their power level currently is....I tend to look at Diana. She's powered by the Greek pantheon, just like Billy, with a very similar powerset, and I tend to figure that Billy and Diana are probably on roughly equal footing as far as strength, speed, and durability goes. It's good enough to ballpark, yknow?
So it seems to me that, right now, Clark's probably noticeably stronger than Adam, but not by such a wide margin that Adam can't hold his own. And with the benefits of magic, experience, and bloodlust, Adam's still a serious threat to Superman, even if Superman can benchpress a larger asteroid.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Someone should let the AT&T and WB execs know before Dwayne Johnson gets that Black Adam Beats Superman: The Movie he's been pushing for.
With that the hardest thing I have a problem getting my head around is how much of the gods power to Billy and Adam actually wield? In the case of Billy's strength, it seems pretty comparable to Hercules's, but on the other hand you would never say that he wields all of Mercury's speed, otherwise he'd be faster than the flash.
I guess both characters just need more feats that showcase all their abilities.
Well Imo superman is above Hercules and mercury,not by much, but enough to win a arm wrestling contest or race with them.
The Marvel's are the only folks that are close to superman or kryptonians Imo physically. Wonder woman isnt in his league, she can kick his ass in a straight up fight, but his powers dwarf hers Imo. Martian manhunter is a threat cause his powers are to flexible and can't be dealt with easily.
Created from 2 of the greatest men,made with 2 powersets thst are both SUPER,and has 2 cool asf looks and attitudes.
I've been doing some research on this and I think based on the following that you can say that Superman can both someone powered by gods(Shazam/BA), but not be able to beat the gods themselves.
Is anyone familiar with the term Godhead? This is the idea that there is really only one god and that each universe in the multiverse has an aspect of each god. Basically each god creates an avatar for each universe.
[Final Crisis]
The reason Superman man may be able to beat or contend with a god is that he's not really fighting the true god but their avatar. This extends to Shazam/BA who may be powered by the avatar of the true god, rather than the godhead itself.
[Infinite Frontier #0]
If Shazam/BA got their powers from the godheads rather than the avatars they'd be infinitely more powerful imo.
Yeah exactly, you got it.
Superman is vulnerable to magic, but he's not more vulnerable to magic than Batman is, for example. Rather, he's exactly as vulnerable to magic as Batman is. He just has no natural defense against it the way a mage like Zatanna or Constantine would.
I don't think Black Adam is actually magically strong, he's just strong, fueled by magic. I don't know if he's stronger than Superman (Captain Marvel once claimed to be stronger than Superman in the pre-Crisis days) but if he wasn't "Zeus Boosting" his fists with that magic lightning shtick I think Superman is probably a pretty good balance. Superman and Cap once arm wrestled literally for hours and only called it off when they had to leave to go deal with crises, so I think they're at least comparable in strength.
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If Superman can't use magic, there's no reason he should be able to defend against it. I see magic as a skill set and Superman doesn't have it.
december 21st has passed where are my superpowers?
If superman is vulnerable to magic for not being a magical being, ww, shazam etc, they should be vulnerable to cosmic energy because they are not cosmic beings. Superman's weakness to magic is not because he is not a magical being, if that were the case, flash, green lantern and many others would suffer the same treatment when talking about magic, superman is weak because he is superman.