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    The roger moore era was always my favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    The roger moore era was always my favorite.
    I like the Roger era also. Although I found Moore to be the least menacing Bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    The roger moore era was always my favorite.
    The 70s era was good but by Moonraker it started to fall apart. It became self-parody and he was being paired with women who were too much younger than him

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    My fav Bonds through the years fit the age that I saw the movies. I loved Moore, but he was the first Bond I saw and as a kid, I didn't get that it was campy, it was just cool - I took it all at face value. Brosnon had more edge than Moore, but his films were summer blockbusters more then spy thrillers, so it was great for me as a comic book geek teen since I wasn't looking for "realism." Then I came back around to watching Connery when I was an adult because he was the most adult and I could appreciate something less comic-booky.

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    I grew up in the Moore era--TSWLM is one of the first movies I went to as a teenager, and I have a real soft spot for Moonraker because of that as well

    Its just one of the reasons I don't directly compare Bond eras or really get into "who was the best bond" type discussions. The actors played Bond so differently comparisons are difficult. In the end I like all Bond movies--even Never Say Never Again has its charms, but in each actor's oeuvre I may like one more than other

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    Goldeneye, as most have said, was the best of the Brosnan films. At the time I saw it I thought Peirce was a great Bond, but that Goldeneye was entertaining but wasn't a top-tier 007 flick; I was convinced the subsequent films would be better. However, I found TND didn't entirely work for me, despite having some good things in it, TWINE felt strangely bland, and DAD was a film worth watching only for the great sword-fight, arguably the only good bit of the film (IMO).

    These days I think GE is one of the better Bond films, and that Pierce feels a little lightweight in the role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    Also in Tomorrow Never Dies, he uses a ton of K.D Lang's end credit song Surrender during the action scenes, but I don't think he used any of Sheryl Crow's title theme. I think it might've been because Surrender was going to be the original theme but they decided to go with Crow because she was a big thing at the time.
    You are correct. the K.D. Lang song was originally meant to be the title song, but for some reason they switched things around and gave the title theme to Crow. Which made the score a bit odd, as it often referenced the Lang song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    The 70s era was good but by Moonraker it started to fall apart. It became self-parody and he was being paired with women who were too much younger than him
    You know, for years I considered Moonraker to be the absolute worst Bond film. But when I rewatched it a few years ago, I found myself liking it more and more. Now I think the worst would probably be Diamonds are Forever, though I respect Connery for it as he donated his entire salary for that movie to charity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    You are correct. the K.D. Lang song was originally meant to be the title song, but for some reason they switched things around and gave the title theme to Crow. Which made the score a bit odd, as it often referenced the Lang song.
    No knock against Crow, but I think Lang would've been a better fit

    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    You know, for years I considered Moonraker to be the absolute worst Bond film. But when I rewatched it a few years ago, I found myself liking it more and more. Now I think the worst would probably be Diamonds are Forever, though I respect Connery for it as he donated his entire salary for that movie to charity.
    The descent into Star Wars cash-in, by James Bond of all series, totally sank that movie for me. However, Idk if I'd say it's the worst. Pretty far down on my list, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    No knock against Crow, but I think Lang would've been a better fit



    The descent into Star Wars cash-in, by James Bond of all series, totally sank that movie for me. However, Idk if I'd say it's the worst. Pretty far down on my list, though
    True but that was a signature for several Bond Movies:
    LALD has blaxploitation elements
    TMWTGG is a bit of a rip-off of the Kung-fu movies popular at the time
    Hell, I’d argue that LTK is a Miami Vice ripoff in some ways too

    While Moonraker may be the most blatant in this regard, its certainly not alone in using elements of other genres popular at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackTerror View Post
    True but that was a signature for several Bond Movies:
    LALD has blaxploitation elements
    TMWTGG is a bit of a rip-off of the Kung-fu movies popular at the time
    Hell, I’d argue that LTK is a Miami Vice ripoff in some ways too

    While Moonraker may be the most blatant in this regard, its certainly not alone in using elements of other genres popular at the time
    It's true, those copied other genres as well, but I think Moonraker did a worse job

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    You are correct. the K.D. Lang song was originally meant to be the title song, but for some reason they switched things around and gave the title theme to Crow. Which made the score a bit odd, as it often referenced the Lang song.
    I actually prefer Lang's Surrender to Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies. Felt more...Bond-esque. I've grown to like TND, as I think the idea was to evoke Shirley Bassey a little...but I still think Surrender is better overall.

    EDIT: Let me add since I decided to listen to it again (lol really like that song): actually Lang's version is more reminiscent of Bassey than Crow's so...it'll always be a big wtf other than Crow was a rising star at the time, maybe.
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    double post sorry

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    I did a rewatch of the whole Bond series last year and I definitely think that, while Brosnan was a good Bond, his films were collectively the worst for an actor playing the role. All of the Bonds have had at least one dud during their tenures (minus Lazenby, of course, but one flick does not a tenure make), but for me at least, Brosnan's films really suffered by being elements of their time and trying to incorporate the 90s action vibe into a Bond movie. Goldeneye is okay (actually liked it less than I remembered enjoying it), while I think the best of Brosnan's films is Tomorrow Never Dies...good action sequences, a solid villain, a cool-as-hell partner agent in Michelle Yeoh. The World is Not Enough really leans into the 90s of it all and does a disservice to most of the actors, especially Marceau and Carlyle (as others have said). Die Another Day? YIKES. Easily the Batman & Robin of Bond films and possibly my least favorite of them all (definitely prefer some of the go-to hated ones like Moonraker to this). The only good thing about it was Rosmund Pike, and even that's a fleeting enjoyability. The fact they were talking about a Halle Berry Jinx spinoff when they had Michelle Yeoh two movies back just boggles the mind.

    EDIT: Actually, Dalton didn't really have what I'd consider a dud, thinking about it. License To Kill is a bit so-so (loved Living Daylights) but it isn't nearly as bad as a Quantum of Solace or You Only Live Twice. It's a decent mid-range Bond movie. Honestly, Dalton maybe aged the best for me in the rewatch of these.
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    I didn't like Living Daylights tbh. But LtK was good.

    I had no idea Halle Berry was considered for a spinoff

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