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    Quote Originally Posted by Reviresco View Post
    Exactly. They pay the lawyers and accountants they are using to rob these creators far more. And they get benefits.
    Ok so this makes more sense. If the implication is marvel is purposefully creating contracts with contradictory wording or open ended statements that then can allow them to basically use their legal team to make some one poor before they get a dime so they give up. Then ok, I get that and I see the problem. But if the implication is the contract says something like *the creator(s) will each receive...) Then that is something that should have been elaborated on with questions at the time of the contract before signing.

    It's really hard to say without reading one of the contracts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    They should pay the original creators more for using their ideas. Disney is worth over 200 billion dollars. They can spare a square.
    Most already are suing Marvel Studio but according to their contracts they have already been paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    They should pay the original creators more for using their ideas. Disney is worth over 200 billion dollars. They can spare a square.
    They were paid when they did the original work. The problem with "creators" is for most characters they have had dozens and dozens of writer over the decades all adding to the character. Take Deadpool. Do you really think he was popular because of Rob Liefled? Hell no he was a generic assasian before other latter writers got a hold of him and made him the character people love. Should Liefeld still get all the credit? Where does it stop? Do you pay every creator who ever worked on a Deadpool book since everyone adds a little something? The issue is a lot more complicated than most people want to aknowledge.

    Unless you put it in your contract that you get a share of the profits for a character you created if it is used in other media you are not owed a dime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    They were paid when they did the original work. The problem with "creators" is for most characters they have had dozens and dozens of writer over the decades all adding to the character. Take Deadpool. Do you really think he was popular because of Rob Liefled? Hell no he was a generic assasian before other latter writers got a hold of him and made him the character people love. Should Liefeld still get all the credit? Where does it stop? Do you pay every creator who ever worked on a Deadpool book since everyone adds a little something? The issue is a lot more complicated than most people want to aknowledge.

    Unless you put it in your contract that you get a share of the profits for a character you created if it is used in other media you are not owed a dime.
    Deadpool is actually a great example. I can remember when he was a new character and he WAS popular back then.

    Even from the beginning he had a bit of a sense of humor and was stuck in ridiculous situations. (The first time Cable defeated him, he mailed him back home in a box). He had a vague but bad past with Weapon X and they hinted he was turned into something horrible.

    Further writers took the idea, made him funnier, expanded his past, etc etc.

    He had already gotten his own action figure and a limited series before they even revealed how bad his face was.

    He was a couple of action figures and limited series in before he got his own series. He had a few minor fourth wall breaks early in it but nothing series.

    And as the series went on, writers kept stressing the humor aspects and the fourth wall stuff more and more and he just kept getting more and more popular.

    It is clear that modern Deadpool is vastly different from classic Deadpool but the character never really changed. He just kept getting more and more exaggerated.

    Then of course there's stuff like his logo belt buckle, his Mexican food obsession, etc. Do you have to pay everyone who's ideas get used?

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