Yeah colors are definitely going to be a lot better now.
Yeah colors are definitely going to be a lot better now.
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It sort of work like a "first issue" because it'll be a jumping on point for readers that weren't following the series before the news of Jon's coming out, and the issue will have value as collector item due to the news/controversy around it. Collectors and speculators will buy multiple copies of it as well as the early issues. As a recent example, Miracle Molly debut issue had 200k+ copies pre-ordered (twice as Tynion BM usually sell).
If the momentum will carry forward... you'll see with #7, I guess. Doubt it'll make any difference, it could drop in the cancellation zone and Jon would stick around anyway as the "bisexual Superman" just because they made already a big deal about it.
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Someone pointed out to me that Jon is holding a Batman mug and now I can't unsee it.
So if I have to suffer, you'll suffer too.
I'd welcome Janin on the book. I wasn't too big on the artist for the most recent issue. I mean it seemed okay but I can't get past the weirdness of the eyes, particularly in Jon's case. Just doesn't look right to me. I don't love Timms, but I'd prefer him to Di Nicuolo.
As for Gabe "What Would Dean Cain Do" Eltaeb, bye bye. Hi-Fi co-colored this issue so hopefully in the long run it will be better when he's fully at the helm.
“Look, you can’t put the Superman #77s with the #200s. They haven’t even discovered Red Kryptonite yet. And you can’t put the #98s with the #300s, Lori Lemaris hasn’t even been introduced.” — Sam
“Where the hell are you from? Krypton?” — Edgar Frog
Trying to keep track of digital sales. Note these numbers improved since Tuesdays.
Superman: Son of Kal-El #4
#3 in 45-Minute Comic & Graphic Novel Short Reads
#5 in Superhero Graphic Novels
#15 in Superhero Comics & Graphic Novels
Also, issues 1-3 continue to sell really well, no wonder these books are getting a second printing
Son of Kal-El #1
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#17 in Superhero Graphic Novels
#35 in Superhero Comics & Graphic Novels
Son of Kal-El #2
#9 in 45-Minute Comic & Graphic Novel Short Reads
#19 in Superhero Graphic Novels
#41 in Superhero Comics & Graphic Novels
Son of Kal-El #3
#10 in 45-Minute Comic & Graphic Novel Short Reads
#25 in Superhero Graphic Novels
#54 in Superhero Comics & Graphic Novels
The whole thing with Jon reminds me a lot of the age up of Bart Allen. There's a lot of similar beats in regard to what happened, and in a scary way that has me rather worried we're going to see the same ending here if DC decides to play the same game.
Both Jon and Bart were abused in some way by a version of superman, in Bart's case it was Prime in the speed Force during the whole Crisis thing.
Both Jon and Bart were aged in a different dimension, in Bart's case it's only four years verse the seven, but both ended up in the early college age area.
When Bart came back he had a lot of PTSD and was dealing with his friends who were sad he'd changed.
Bart became best friends with another fellow college student/worker at Keystone motors, Griffin Gray, who was his room mate who had powers, and later turned evil and became the main rival outside of Inertia to Bart.
Bart also hooked up with the daughter of one of the villains for the flash.
So far Jay has hit at least some of these: Fellow College Student, works with Jon on things, is probably going to become a room mate to Jon in the near future, has powers, possibly will become evil, and he kills the second bird as a love interest with one stone.
What has me worried is that over time the stories became less good for Bart and what ended up happening was in the end, rather then keep him around and you know, de age him, they killed him by having the rogues find out his name and try to steal the speedforce from Bart and then kill him in the process. It was a mess and what I'm worried about is that by the end of this we're going to see the same issue crop up with Jon.
While you'll get a short spurt of YA fans for the early issues the longer the series goes on there's going to be a drop off, and in some cases there will be a drop off with some readers if Jay either becomes "Dull" as in they have to figure a way to put him in the story naturally, see the Gwen Stacey issue, or he goes evil and they break up and some readers will not like that. Another issue is the same thing that Bart had. While there was a pick up for some new readers for a while, the longer running Impulse fans did not want this, and the sales numbers kept coming down. Not to mention once Taylor's run is done, who takes over it going to be an issue. If you get a good writer you're safe. If you get someone like, I don't know Dan Slott, you're going to see a huge shift in the story telling and the situation.
So again my worry is that by aging him up too fast, and throwing him into a relationship this fast, you're going down the Aged Up Bart Allen path, or the Aged up Chris Kent path. Both which ended up crashing and burning due to issue in the writing and not spending the time to grow the character.
And let's be real here too. Clark has been known as Superman since the 1930s. You can change how he looks, do elseworlds, but the moment you try to replace him, problems happen. Look at Peter when Ben took over, or when Spider-Oct happened. The only reason Miles was able to do the take over is the same reason Wally was, Peter was dead. So unless you intend to kill Clark, again, or him retiring, I don't see Jon over taking his father in Any media out there. Clark is too well known. The same with Bruce and Diana. You can argue the same of Hal too in some ways and of various marvel properties, see the whole issue of Black Panther and Wolverine for a while.
I'm not a fan of there being two Supermen. Let Jon use the Superboy name and Clark be the only Superman.
That seems like a dubious argument given Superboy has been historically known as Conner and before that it was Clark. If it’s possible to replace the person who originally held the name, then Jon has nowhere to go. Clark is Superman and Conner is Superboy. Guess we’ll have to just kill Jon off and erase him from continuity
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I have this weird feeling that something big is going to happen in the Superman books.
My guess is that either Lois dies or that Jon follows the same path as the older Bart and ends up dying too.
It's also possible that Superman himself ends up dying, but that's been done before and too soon to do it again.
Don’t see any of those happening. The “big thing” was Jon becoming bi lol, made the news! I can’t even get the Kents killed off despite wanting it, no way is Lois or Clark getting killed. Utterly bizarre that you guys think they’ll kill off their LGBT Superman after he made the news and had his issues go back for reprints.
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