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    Default How can the Oscars get their Ratings back.

    I am sure many know by now the oscar ratings crashed to less than 10 million views. Despite some extreme right wing people in the media taking time to gloat and mock the oscars for going what they call ''woke'' as the reason they have lost 90% of their audience. I think there is more to explaining why people don't watch the Oscars any more.

    Where do you think they went wrong, that they have lost almost 40 million viewers since the 2010s?

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    Barely any movies came out last year, much less any that people actually watched, because of theater shutdowns. The average person had zero reason to care this year.
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    This year was an anomaly. Most people never heard of, much less saw any of the nominees. The movies weren't so much "woke" as small, because you can't make any big-budget films with all the theaters closed.

    The decline in viewership is probably mostly explained as being in line with the general decline in TV viewership over the past decade or so. Everything is online now. Ten years from now TV sets will just be big hi-def monitors for playing on-demand streaming content.

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    The right wingers complaining about the woke being a bad thing is just stupid racist crap.

    Personally I just stopped watching the Oscars back in the early/mid 00's when I realized the types of movies the Oscars love tend to be the kind of movies I don't watch. I'm a sci-fi/horror/superhero/monster/action nerd, the deep drama yada yada movies that comprise the bulk of those award shows I never even watch. Hell, many of the nominees are films I've never even heard of, much less would be interested in watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    The right wingers complaining about the woke being a bad thing is just stupid racist crap.

    Personally I just stopped watching the Oscars back in the early/mid 00's when I realized the types of movies the Oscars love tend to be the kind of movies I don't watch. I'm a sci-fi/horror/superhero/monster/action nerd, the deep drama yada yada movies that comprise the bulk of those award shows I never even watch. Hell, many of the nominees are films I've never even heard of, much less would be interested in watching.


    As a person who does not consider myself left wing or right wing but more as an independent that uses logic, though had a personal dislike for Trump and wanted him gone as President, maybe the USA may has just embraced to much extremism wherever they can find it.

    As a person of colour myself, I had no issues with diversity as long as the merits of the movie still had the final say, who gets nominated and win, but I am not sure how much this matters anymore in the last few years since .....Oscars so white. I myself did not see most of this movies nominated , I did see Parasite last year and it was good enough to win Best Picture for me, , but all that may be interpreted to many other people who thinks he won only because he was Korean. if people have that mentality now.... they won't watch anymore, even many POCs.


    I'm a sci-fi/horror/superhero/monster/action nerd, the deep drama yada yada movies that comprise the bulk of those award shows I never even watch. Hell, many of the nominees are films I've never even heard of, much less would be interested in watching.
    there is always the technical categories, I see that Nolan's Tenet won for VFX. Which is typical for a Nolan film. However I agree, that they should open more space for sci-fi/horror/superhero/monster/action nerd as long as they are up to the standard of their deep drama and their film making is top notch.
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    I am not sure there is anything the Oscars can do.

    Ratings are contingent on:
    -- Serious Adult Dramas having a popular audience.
    -- A really popular film also being critically liked (LOTR, Gladiator)
    -- Popular actors giving a performance audiences really like and get behind.

    Oscars are like sports and audiences like to have a rooting interest, if you have a team that's not popular or drawing in advertising, then there's not much that can be done.

    Oscars used to be a superbowl but now it gets the ratings of a lesser-tier event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    As a person who does not consider myself left wing or right wing but more as an independent that uses logic, though had a personal dislike for Trump and wanted him gone as President, maybe the USA may has just embraced to much extremism wherever they can find it.

    As a person of colour myself, I had no issues with diversity as long as the merits of the movie still had the final say, who gets nominated and win, but I am not sure how much this matters anymore in the last few years since .....Oscars so white. I myself did see most of this movies nominated , I did see Parasite last year and it was good enough to win Best Picture for me, , but all that may be interpreted to many other people who thinks he won only because he was Korean. if people have that mentality now.... they won't watch anymore, even many POCs.



    there is always the technical categories, I see that Nolan's Tenet won for VFX. Which is typical for a Nolan film. However I agree, that they should open more space for sci-fi/horror/superhero/monster/action nerd as long as they are up to the standard of their deep drama and their film making is top notch.
    I didn't watch Parasite, but I think that director is the same one who made a monster movie about 15 years ago that I really like - The Host. That was extremely well done (actually finally bought the blu-ray for it early this year after not seeing it for over a decade - it really held up, even the special effects still looked pretty decent considering). Could just be because that I'm an anime fan and a lifelong Godzilla fan, but if someone has a problem with a film because it's made by or features Asians, they clearly have poop for brains.

    And yeah, there are the technical categories, but the Oscars just feel too long to sit through for me waiting for the couple categories or so that might feature a movie I actually watched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewCrossett View Post
    This year was an anomaly. Most people never heard of, much less saw any of the nominees.
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    That includes me. Even if it wasn't for the pandemic, I don't go to the theaters anymore in a long time. I am not comfortable with crowds. I prefer to watch movies alone. That is why I'm watching them on video.

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    I don't think they can get their ratings back.

    Its a boring ceremony, that goes on way too long, in an era where people can find out who won the awards online in real time. What is the incentive to watch?

    I mean if you want to try to improve things, i would say

    1. make sure you have a funny, entertaining host

    2. limit the broadcast to maybe the 10 categories of awards people are most interested in (cut out most of the technical categories etc)

    3. make sure the speeches are given by actors/directors (i.e. celebrities known to the public) rather than producers and others that the public doesn't know

    But tbh i'm not sure any of that would really affect things all that much. its just not a show that people need to tune in to watch live, most are content to read about the results the next day (assuming they care at all) and even diehards can just check the internet to find out who's winning what whilst they do something else more fun.

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    Yeah, with the drought of movies this past year I'm not sure why they even held them.

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    The lack of movies anyone care about that came out. The date change. The format change. Lack of celebrities (partly because of the lack of big movies)

    More people would watch if the nomination pool more closely matched the box office. The Oscars have a reputation of being out of touch to the tastes of the mainstream.

    Also this last Oscars was super poorly produced and unwatchable. Watching the whole thing was torture. How could you have this badly produced a show?

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    Many people are saying that some nominations for the Snyder Cut would have brought the mass audience back in.

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    Stream it on twitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobisher View Post
    Many people are saying that some nominations for the Snyder Cut would have brought the mass audience back in.
    I don't know if the Snyder fans are considered "many" by normal Oscar standards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobisher View Post
    Many people are saying that some nominations for the Snyder Cut would have brought the mass audience back in.
    I actually laughed out loud at this.

    Well played sir.

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