View Poll Results: Should Scarlet Witch be called The Pretender?

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  • Yes! She’s the Pretender!

    62 38.04%
  • No! Stop calling her that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranger View Post
    While I don't care enough for whatever stories changed that, and I definitely do not trust Marvel not to change that again, I do think it is interesting to look at Wanda not as one pretending to be a mutant, but one who was a pretender with regards to being an heir of Magneto, the throne of Magneto, and more putting herself in that exact role in House of M.
    Which is dumb since she never agreed with Magneto's idea or really want to be his daughter.
    Bendis just assumed she had some daddy isssue just because.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximoffTrash View Post
    Which is dumb since she never agreed with Magneto's idea or really want to be his daughter.
    Bendis just assumed she had some daddy isssue just because.
    Naw. If bendis wrote it like that then that’s what it is. You don’t write for xmen so you really got no say in the matter. You might not like it but only thing you can do to change it is apply to work at marvel or write some fan fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane_danko View Post
    Naw. If bendis wrote it like that then that’s what it is. You don’t write for xmen so you really got no say in the matter. You might not like it but only thing you can do to change it is apply to work at marvel or write some fan fiction.
    You are bending the canon, Wanda never really cared to be his daughter or his heir. Makes no sense, i think Lorna is more like that

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    Which is dumb since she never agreed with Magneto's idea or really want to be his daughter.
    Bendis just assumed she had some daddy isssue just because.
    Wanda in the 90s publicly exposed those views.

    Privately she seemed a bit more conflicted.

    Last edited by jmc247; 05-03-2021 at 09:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc247 View Post
    Wanda in the 90s publicly exposed those views.

    Privately she seemed a bit more conflicted.

    What issue is this from ?
    I am a Marvel fan preferably cosmic storylines, especially Thanos or Dark Phoenix related, when both the Avengers and the X-Men are involved count me in, loved the original Uncanny Avengers series.
    Not a fan of any of the new characters.
    (Marvel/DC fan for 44+ years)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARkadelphia View Post
    Fun discussion but let’s be straight here. There is one character in this storyline who has truly 100% without question earned the title of “Pretender”. And her name is Moira. We can all agree on this at least, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    Nah just you.
    No, no, it makes sense. Due to the retcon, Moira went to from a good and honest to God woman to a cold and deceitful mutant who pretended to be… a “good and honest to God woman”.

    Wanda never cared that much to be a mutant even she liked having powers: she didn’t attach any ideology to it. This was Magneto’s thing: “We are persecuted because we are superior. Let’s be the masters instead.…” But she decided to leave that and join the Avengers.
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    No, no, it makes sense. Due to the retcon, Moira went to from a good and honest to God woman to a cold and deceitful mutant who pretended to be… a “good and honest to God woman”.

    Wanda never cared that much to be a mutant even she liked having powers: she didn’t attach any ideology to it. This was Magneto’s thing: “We are persecuted because we are superior. Let’s be the masters instead.…” But she decided to leave that and join the Avengers.
    When Moira was deceitful since the retcon? Wanda has been an abomination since HoM where other characters are repeatedly held responsible for her actions as some plot device to make her look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishop View Post
    When Moira was deceitful since the retcon?
    Retroactive effect.
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixThanos View Post
    What issue is this from ?
    It’s a mini series Dark Seduction from 2000. It’s an interesting transition moment from the 90s which was still very much in that style and substance. It hasn’t been reprinted in trade in a long time. But, it’s as close as one would find to a pre-HoM family mini with the whole core cast.



    Last edited by jmc247; 05-04-2021 at 02:07 AM.

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    Can Wanda just be a mutant again?
    december 21st has passed where are my superpowers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OopsIdiditagain View Post
    Can Wanda just be a mutant again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OopsIdiditagain View Post
    Can Wanda just be a mutant again?
    Yes, please. This pretender nonsense is uninteresting and a boring rehash of an issue that's been handled several times over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishop View Post
    When Moira was deceitful since the retcon?
    The retcon makes her ever appearance prior to that a life and pulls Xavier down with her.

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    What are we going do next week for the next anti-Scarlet Witch thread?
    "Cable was right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    What are we going do next week for the next anti-Scarlet Witch thread?
    Something with kittens and cats?
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