What harm would creationism pose if it's worse than Donald Trump's lousy ideas?

[Tyrannoraptor]

What would be the consequences of creationism if deemed worse than Donald Trump's disastrous suggestions?

[worstblogever]

I don't even understand how this argument is supposed to be posed, but I'll wing it...

Creationism poses harm to the nation because if the government accepted it, it's unconstitutional on the grounds of it being a violation of the separation of church and state.

Donald Trump, on a daily basis, was a constitutional crisis because virtually every goddamned fascist policy he suggested was a challenge to the Constitution, and every impulse the moron has is criminal. People walked right out of the administration regularly in the early days because Trump was rock stupid, and just didn't get it.

Individuals can believe in Creationism, against scientific evidence, as a matter of faith. They just need to understand that it will be limited to their own faith and no one else's.

No one should believe in Donald Trump. He's an inept, whiny, corrupt failure. He was for decades before he reached office, he was for four years as chief executive, he is again as a private citizen. The only people who believe in him seem to, y'know, compulsively ignore all the evidence of him being a failure because he "trolls the libs" and got away with more bigotry than any high-profile politician in almost a century.

And... that's all.

[Kirby101]

Considering how bad most of Trump's disastrous suggestions were. And I would deem Creationism worse than many. A lot of harm. Next question?

[Zelena]

Belief over science? It would be a step backward. It’s hard to discuss with zealots.

[Tyrannoraptor]

Considering how bad most of Trump's disastrous suggestions were. And I would deem Creationism worse than many. A lot of harm. Next question?

Okay so how is creationism much worse than that (any examples of the consequences of thus religious belief?)?

[CSTowle]

It's anti-science. For example, though a fringe one, there is a weird subset of the conspiracy crowd that believe dinosaur bones are fake, planted to undermine the bible by Satan's minions. Also, that the Earth is not a globe/planet but rather a set enclosed (flat) area encircled by a "firmament" of stars/planets and any documented space travel/satellites/etc. are again Satan's lies to undermine the teachings of their holy book.

Those same people believe that the idea of us evolving from other creatures, and that life has done so and continues to do so over the course of billions of years, undermines the magic in their belief. And they're right. So some believe it's false. Others try to find a way to square the two, some with Jesus riding dinosaurs and others saying things like the universe was made as it is currently appearing to be billions of years old but in reality popping into existence whole form 6,000 or so years ago with that false appearance of vast age and expansion.

Some take solace in the fact that scientists don't know and can't prove the origins of our universe (let alone our species), but instead of accepting 'we don't know (yet)" they plug whatever magical thinking fits their chosen (or indoctrinated) beliefs. In a society that values innovation and impartial scientific observation that can hold us back or even be dangerous to progress. I understand the origins, but I'd agree it's dangerous.

[Zelena]

Okay so how is creationism much worse than that (any examples of the consequences of thus religious belief?)?

Science has nothing to tell about a life after a death: you can believe what you want and I can believe what I want.
Science has something to say about Evolution and if you say that it didn’t exist, you consider that belief has more value than science.

While science is a unifier, because you must bring proof of what you say, on the other hand, with religion, there’s no proof, only belief. And why would a belief have more value than another? There’s no referee for that. It’s a source of division.

[Kirby101]

Okay so how is creationism much worse than that (any examples of the consequences of thus religious belief?)?

Is the crux of this why creationism is bad?

[shooshoomanjoe]

It's results in some children dying because their parents refused to seek medical help, child sex abuse, xenophobia or people flying planes onto buildings.

[GOLGO 13]

Okay so how is creationism much worse than that (any examples of the consequences of thus religious belief?)?

The belief that an invisible sugar-daddy will grant me all my wishes if I pray to him? Sure, creationism is totally believable.

[Ragged Maw]

What would be the consequences of creationism if deemed worse than Donald Trump's disastrous suggestions?

"Burn The Witch!" memes aside, I'd rather not see them vote into office some preacher, thinking their specialty in staving off venomous snakes from biting them solely with prayer makes them "chosen" for the position.

[GOLGO 13]

Oh I am so ready to see some drooling, bible thumping, "snake handler" from West Virginia get up in congress with some rattlesnakes while screaming God's on his side.

[Totoro Man]

Creationism shouldn't be taught in schools. I believe it's a backdoor way of making converts out of people. save converting other people for your interpersonal relationships. if you believe that Jesus is the answer, and want to share the Gospel with everybody you know... great. go ahead. but don't try to force people into becoming converts by using public schools as an instrument.

you might even argue from religious perspectives that this would be an unacceptable 'sacrifice'; that is to say a sacrifice that was not made with the right intentions.

I'm with the Puritan Roger Williams on this matter. the state should be there to preserve civil order and administer justice to the people... but it SHOULD NOT be used to force people into becoming religious converts. the fact that Williams insisted that the Indians should be properly paid and recompensed for their lands also seems like a good thing. of course, he was considered a controversial oddball in his time. I do like the fact that he specifically mentioned King Stephen of Poland on page 152 of the Bloudy Tenent: "I am a civil magistrate over the bodies of men, not a spiritual (magistrate) over their souls."

Christians shouldn't be appointing themselves rulers over the souls of other people.

[Powerboy]

What would be the consequences of creationism if deemed worse than Donald Trump's disastrous suggestions?

Is Atrocity A worse than Atrocity B?

Not much point here.

How bad is Creationism? Depends on what you associate it with. In and of itself, it's just an ignorant belief that ignores facts kind of like Trumpism.

How would you even determine which is worse? What criteria would there be?

Their commonality is that you cannot reason anyone out of beliefs they never reasoned themselves into to begin with.

[Alan2099]

So I doubt these might be the reason why it's worse than Donald Trump's suggestions.

Is Atrocity A worse than Atrocity B?

Not much point here.

How bad is Creationism? Depends on what you associate it with. In and of itself, it's just an ignorant belief that ignores facts kind of like Trumpism.

How would you even determine which is worse? What criteria would there be?

Their commonality is that you cannot reason anyone out of beliefs they never reasoned themselves into to begin with.

I might prefer a punch to the face to over a kick to the groin, but if given the option, I'd rather have neither.