That's the old "If I add telekinesis to my punch is it super strength or not?" debate.
That is correct, with a big assist from Storm, and Cyclops and Havok. But here’s why that never made much sense.
Electromagnetism is one force.
Gravity is a different force.
You can overcome gravity with electromagnetism in some applications, but you can’t “cancel” out gravity with it. That’s non-sensical.
Then again, it is comics we are speaking of, not physics research. So, they can do whatever they want in Marvel comics.
No the thread is about being a brick that has two components super strength and damage resistance. Now typically because of Superman who is the prototypical brick people don't call certain characters bricks but they are several TK users in the genre that operate like a "brick" the main one being a version Kon El superboy. Could Jean lift 100 tons with her mind? Yes. Could Jean resist a ton of damage with TK shields? Yes. That is a brick.
If we consider TKs as bricks, then Exodus would probably be the winner. He has been able to take on Eternals in 1vs1 and entire X-men and Avengers teams on his own.
The problem is that we are facing another, in effect, case of "Confidence boosts his powers" so it varies a lot from one appearance to another.
The interesting thing is that his powers also increase when other people trust him. And lately he seems to be quite popular with the children of Krakoa...
They can operate as Bricks, So you can't dismiss them from the topic but none of the TK people on the X-men fight like Bricks except for Betsy when she got TK. Which is a shame because it would be a great way to separate people with the same powers. That is just my opinion tho
I've always considered a "brick" as someone who isn't just super strong and super durable, but that those are their primary and almost trademark powers. So if someone is super strong and durable but they're better at telekinesis or energy projection, they're automatically counted out. The key difference between, say, Gladiator and Silver Surfer -- Surfer is just as strong and tough (if not moreso) as Gladiator, but he can do so much more with his power cosmic like matter manipulation, so he's not really a brick.
I loved Exodus vs. War Machine and Sersi, and both times he clearly showed off his brick-like physical powers, but his psionic powers are way more powerful and used much more often, so I don't consider him as a brick, either. Rogue, on the other hand, even if she were super strong but physically weaker than Exodus (for the sake of this example), I'd still consider her more of a brick than him.
I think it might be Krakoa.
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