Power Level complains

[WonderLight789]

Using Hercules as an example of strength isn't a good one when he doesn't lift the Heavens in Dc. He's someone Hippolyta went to war with and didn't automatically lose against

According to DC. He lifted the earth. And WW has greater strength than him. Hippolyta only outfought him, thanks to superior skills and him being too stubborn understimating his opponent.

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[Primal Slayer]

According to DC. He lifted the earth. And WW has greater strength than him. Hippolyta only outfought him, thanks to superior skills and him being too stubborn understimating his opponent.

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So then WW can be beat by weaker opponents?

[WonderLight789]

So then WW can be beat by weaker opponents?

She already has multiple times hasn't she? Sadly most of the time, the explanation or execution as to why is not good. In many cases. There is no explanation at all.

So again. WW who is stronger than somebody that can lift earth, and faster than Mercury/Hermes, should not be below Superman in power, let alone his entire race.

[Stanlos]

And she is not. Even Pre-Crisis, it was known by cosmic foes of the Justice League that the Amazon rivaled the attacking Kryptonians (Superman and Supergirl) in strength and speed. "RIVAL" is the exact appropriate verb.

Only the uninformed or irrationally biased would assert otherwise. What each of the one-person-Justice-League style characters were designed to be and how they relate is a matter of historical record.

[Primal Slayer]

She already has multiple times hasn't she? Sadly most of the time, the explanation or execution as to why is not good. In many cases. There is no explanation at all.

So again. WW who is stronger than somebody that can lift earth, and faster than Mercury/Hermes, should not be below Superman in power, let alone his entire race.

Then you shouldnt be mad that she gets beaten by those of lesser strength if you want her to have the strength of Hercules who didnt easily wipe out a simple Amazon.

[WonderLight789]

Then you shouldnt be mad that she gets beaten by those of lesser strength if you want her to have the strength of Hercules who didnt easily wipe out a simple Amazon.

Yes. I can complain. Because if there is no explanation as to why it happened in a certain way. Then it's bad.

And she doesn't have the strength of Hercules. She has greater strength than him. Which means above planetary level strength.

[D.Z]

When post crisis started up they further toned what characters could do.

Post Zero Hour is different.

[WonderLight789]

When post crisis started up they further toned what characters could do.

Post Zero Hour is different.

Superman still gets big power feats tiol these days. Along with other characters. So either nerf everybody equally, or don't nerf anybody.

[Alpha]

Superman still gets big power feats tiol these days.

Like what?

[WonderLight789]

Like what?

Like lifting the weight of earth for 5 days in New 52. Destroying a moon in Post Crisis. Traveling MFTL. Punching people to the moon like Bizarro, etc.

[D.Z]

Few of those for Superman are all post Zero Hour as I said and more post other Eras. All of his pre crisis crazy power stuff was consigned to never happened or lowered powers.

They made NU52 Superman stronger than his pre flashpoint version, yet weak to other things. NU52 Superman ceased to be so his levels must be lower.

Wally was nerfed post crisis until writers unnerfed him and made him surpass everyone.

Only in recent times Hal could do crazy things again.

[Primal Slayer]

Yes. I can complain. Because if there is no explanation as to why it happened in a certain way. Then it's bad.

And she doesn't have the strength of Hercules. She has greater strength than him. Which means above planetary level strength.

I didnt tell you that you that you couldn't complain. If Hercules can be beat then Diana can be beat. If an Amazon can defeat Hercules than Superman can defeat Wonder Woman by that thought. But nonetheless he hasnt been granted the strength of Hercules since pre-COIE.

[D.Z]

Still feats only Wonder Woman can do even after post crisis and other following eras. Like being able to best Superman in combat speed or survive a nuke. Also Superman is weak against magic and magic lightning bolts. Whereas some books shown Diana resists magic lighting bolts. Resisting Max Lords mind control crap. And more.

[WonderLight789]

I didnt tell you that you that you couldn't complain. If Hercules can be beat then Diana can be beat. If an Amazon can defeat Hercules than Superman can defeat Wonder Woman by that thought. But nonetheless he hasnt been granted the strength of Hercules since pre-COIE.

Then Wonder Woman can beat Superman too by your own logic. Although she really can't. Because of sexism. As we have seen over and over again that he can put her down like she is nothing next to him. Too bad your logic doesn't work both ways on equal terms don't you think?

And Hippolyta is not just a regular amazon as her feats prove. DC Hippolyta has feats like being able to trade blows with Lobo, damage Orion in one punch. And throw a big plane at WW. She is not as strong as WW, but still very strong. By all we know, her strength may be on par with DC Hercules or at least not very far behind. In which case, the fight in Perez could be explained by her being close enough in strength, and her superior skills could compensate and make her win. For smebody to beat WW. They would either have to be way stronger than her to the point her skills couldn't compansate. Or more skilled. Or be equally strong and skilled, so the fight can go either way. Did you ever see canon WW match Superman's strength? No. Did you ever see her beating him because of skill advantage? No. Did we ever see her stomped by him like she was way behind him in power, and her skills couldn't compensatefor ####? Yes we did, multiple times.

[WonderLight789]

Still feats only Wonder Woman can do even after post crisis and other following eras. Like being able to best Superman in combat speed or survive a nuke. Also Superman is weak against magic and magic lightning bolts. Whereas some books shown Diana resists magic lighting bolts. Resisting Max Lords mind control crap. And more.

superman has stomped WW countless times. Comics, TV, movies etc. So i don't know what you are talking about. DC is consistent with one thing. to show that she is nothing but an ant next to him. You like it? Good. I don't like it and they are sexist by doing that.