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    I'm making my way through the prequel series and shows. It strikes me interesting that both the Clone and Storm troopers are pretty inept. In practically every battle scene they fire their weapons, the Jedi charge in battle and more troopers are killed and the Jedi escape battle without even a scratch. Plus, Jedi are somehow able to block every single shot that's fired at them. What's the point of having soldiers against telekinetic and mind reading powers? I feel like there should be more balance with the fighting. The writing really tends to make characters with Jedi powers look better than anyone else.
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    The answer is that it's the very problem with a prequel where we know certain characters have to survive. Obi-wan and Anakin for example are simply not in any real danger due to the fact that they're in the Prequel trilogy. Even Ahsoka to a lesser extent since she was an audience insert character and has to be around in order for that to work. Season 7 would give her the movie status-quo since she's in Rebels so she was never going to be harmed in her escape from the Venator.

    A lot of the poor tactics is also because the people writing and animating these stories tend to not be the people who actually know anything about millitary strategy or combat which is why you hear or see flanking maneuvers a lot or really unconventional tactics. Or if you're Thrawn in Rebels just babbling on about art like that makes him more competent than the other commanders. It's also a kids show and so it'd be kind of awkward if Anakin shows up like he just finished fighting Obi-wan.
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    It's not just the prequels, it's something that comes up in any fantasy really. The bad guys are big bad and scary to your average villager and the heroes talk about how mercilessly and easily they've subjugated the kingdom/galaxy but when it actually comes down to a real conflict between them and the heroes the bad guys fall down like bowling pins.

    Now, you can either see that as unrealistic and walk away, or just accept that it's part of the plot mechanics of this type of story and enjoy yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorIronman View Post
    A lot of the poor tactics is also because the people writing and animating these stories tend to not be the people who actually know anything about millitary strategy or combat which is why you hear or see flanking maneuvers a lot or really unconventional tactics. Or if you're Thrawn in Rebels just babbling on about art like that makes him more competent than the other commanders. It's also a kids show and so it'd be kind of awkward if Anakin shows up like he just finished fighting Obi-wan.
    Well, comparatively he was. The only time he was really defeated was from a Force God or frikkin space whales.
    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    It's not just the prequels, it's something that comes up in any fantasy really. The bad guys are big bad and scary to your average villager and the heroes talk about how mercilessly and easily they've subjugated the kingdom/galaxy but when it actually comes down to a real conflict between them and the heroes the bad guys fall down like bowling pins.

    Now, you can either see that as unrealistic and walk away, or just accept that it's part of the plot mechanics of this type of story and enjoy yourself.
    Or like how in pretty much every TMNT adaption the Foot Clan start out as actual threats before they just become normal mooks in subsequent episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Well, comparatively he was. The only time he was really defeated was from a Force God or frikkin space whales.
    People under him disobeying him at critical moments. Had they kept their egos in check and listened to him they were have succeeded.

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    Didn't at one point Thrawn have the Rebel base ready to be orbital bombarded but went to the ground himself giving the rebels time to escape and encountering said force god who could be stopped by simple blasterfire? A threat that even had he known about would've been taken out in the bombardment.

    He also set up the Tie defender program on Lothal. A place that has routinely sabotaged Imperial efforts by essentially a bunch of yahoos in a van. Admirals, the ISB, the Inquisitors, and Darth freaking Vader couldn't stop them.

    I'm just saying tactically Thrawn is inept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorIronman View Post
    Didn't at one point Thrawn have the Rebel base ready to be orbital bombarded but went to the ground himself giving the rebels time to escape and encountering said force god who could be stopped by simple blasterfire? A threat that even had he known about would've been taken out in the bombardment.
    To be fair, I remember him having the Rebels utterly dead to rights before the Force God showed up.
    He also set up the Tie defender program on Lothal. A place that has routinely sabotaged Imperial efforts by essentially a bunch of yahoos in a van. Admirals, the ISB, the Inquisitors, and Darth freaking Vader couldn't stop them.

    I'm just saying tactically Thrawn is inept.
    Well, the failure of the Tie Defender is like 70% Pryce (who was definitely inept in comparison to Thrawn).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorIronman View Post
    Didn't at one point Thrawn have the Rebel base ready to be orbital bombarded but went to the ground himself giving the rebels time to escape and encountering said force god who could be stopped by simple blasterfire? A threat that even had he known about would've been taken out in the bombardment.

    He also set up the Tie defender program on Lothal. A place that has routinely sabotaged Imperial efforts by essentially a bunch of yahoos in a van. Admirals, the ISB, the Inquisitors, and Darth freaking Vader couldn't stop them.

    I'm just saying tactically Thrawn is inept.
    IIRC, Vadar wasn't there to stop the rebels. He was there to find the Jedi temple and destroy it. Which he did.

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