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    I don't think Polaris fans are gonna be happy with this lol.

    And it seems Kwannon and Greycrow is happening.

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    oooooooooooo Polaris fans are going to be sooooooo mad

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    Oh so the other Hellions were invited but didn't bother to dress up. I feel like at least Nanny would have put in some effort.

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    I definitely didn't need Havolaris back... Anyway, let's hope Wells' writing makes it less terrible

    And I just noticed Piotr and Kitty in the background

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    Same crap again on Polaris and Havok?

    at least Kwannon has a new love interest.

    but overall Meh about this gala

    Quote Originally Posted by rhaenylis View Post
    I definitely didn't need Havolaris back... Anyway, let's hope Wells' writing makes it less terrible

    And I just noticed Piotr and Kitty in the background
    Oh that too

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    I think it's pretty clear that Alex is petitioning (begging) Magneto to change his position on resurrecting Maddie and Lorna is dragging him away to prevent him from embarrassing himself any more than he already has, not rekindling any relationship.

    So Wildchild is going to attack Greycrow because he perceives him as competition for his alpha Kwannon, right?

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    I thought he was asking him to get him off the Hellions but I could see him trying to get Maddie alive again but even if Magnus agreed, I thought it was the whole Council who decided to change keep her dead? maybe I am not remembering well but of course getting him to agree would go a long way with them.

    Of course, I don´t know how much good it did him to see Lorna given Magneto´s face, I don´t think he likes their relationship much XD but he respects Lorna cares for him.
    what is man that you are mindful of him,
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    Kwannon looks beautiful and John's face is priceless and sweet.

    Nanny didn't want to slay all the ladies at the gala so she kept it eggy.

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    oooooooooooo Polaris fans are going to be sooooooo mad
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    There's clearly nothing romantic about the Havok-Polaris interaction. She's just dragging his out of Magneto's sight.

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    Pardon my Naiveté but why is the end all if Polaris & Havok interact?

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    Haha.. Lorna gonna dump his ass in the ocean. She’s in the big leagues and he’s a loser now. Bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenito View Post
    Kwannon looks beautiful and John's face is priceless and sweet.

    Nanny didn't want to slay all the ladies at the gala so she kept it eggy.
    It seems Nanny, Orphan Maker, Greycrow and Wildchild (did Empath got killed again or left in Murderworld?) are more "dragged along" as accessory of Sinister. Maybe he sees it akin to celebrities bringing their pets along for a gala.

    Psylocke is likely officialy invited and since she isn't a "penal soldier" but their warden she can show up with a fancy dress.
    Likewise Havok is Cyclops' (captain of Krakoa and soon to be leader of a new X-men team) brother and an international known hero in his own right. So even if he is currently a "problem" they can't just leave him out or have him show up "untidy" costume. Hence getting a proper suit too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Pardon my Naiveté but why is the end all if Polaris & Havok interact?
    I'll field this! And bear in mind I'm a little durnk and therefore can't be held responsible for anything bad that I say. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

    The problem runs deeper than simply "if Polaris and Havok interact." There's a history here of Lorna being robbed of her own agency, personality and opportunities to cater to what's best for Havok. It's not just bad writing. It's decades worth of it, deeply ingrained into nostalgia and perceptions of what Lorna can offer. She went without an origin story until 2012. Without leading her own team until 2014. To date, Havok's the only person she's been written as having a relationship with in all her 52 years, while Havok's been with roughly one other woman per decade. And that's not getting into how often any development she has gets reset and ignored to reduce her to Havok's supporting character girlfriend every time they're in relationship. We've gone over 15 years with Marvel acting like the Genoshan genocide never happened to Lorna, but they constantly have to force this relationship to come up like dating Havok is the most important thing she's ever done with her life.

    This godawful X-Men Blue #28 cover is a good visual demonstration of what I mean. That's just 3 years ago. And they've been forcing "subtle" reminders in their stories for the past few years.

    The relationship is currently toxic. It needs a lot of time apart with each character doing their own thing before it can be made truly viable. Lorna especially needs a lot of work done with her to ensure her development isn't thrown away yet again for Havok's convenience if they get together again. Every time Marvel does something like this, it raises all the red flags. It makes fans doubt Marvel can do anything good with Lorna, and therefore make anything worth reading and supporting. Because instead of bringing up far more important things about her, like surviving Genosha, or having launched Krakoa into space, or having been the second woman to join the X-Men, Marvel keeps going back to how useful she's been in promoting a man they like.

    That's why it's a big deal. It's not just the two of them interacting. It's the loaded toxic history their interactions remind everyone of, and the threat of a return to more of that old toxicity just to cater to some old time nostalgia. Marvel needs to do more work with Lorna, without forcing Havok into her business, to not raise red flags every time they do this.
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