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    Default Vegeta and Nappa land on Viltrim (Invincible)

    In a strange twist of fate, Nappa and Vegeta land on another conqueurers planet, Viltrim.

    How do the two of them do?

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    I imagine most of them, at least the strong ones, should be fine after Nappa's usual flashy entrance, and then it's all out war.

    So now we get to figure out if anyone besides Thragg can fight Vegeta.
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    Is this pre or post scourge virus?

    If it's the full population of Viltrum in its prime then I don't think Vegeta and Nappa can win without doing irreparable to the planet which might leave them in a bit of a sticky situation afterwards.

    I think the peak Viltrumite's are stronger, maybe (?) DBZ strength is a bit hard to gauge, and they are also durable enough to resist their respective off the cuff firepower so they could just zerg rush them.

    It's a tough fight but it's not impossible for either side. I think the issue is that Vegeta and Nappa might not have the stamina for it.

    Also, there's always the risk that the Viltrumites could drag them into space. Saiyans do not have the lung capacity to match Viltrumites.

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    I would assume this is post-scourge, given that was a very, very long time ago.

    Vegeta should be soooooo much stronger than the Viltrumites, there really won't be much they can do to him. Nappa casually, with an off-hand gesture, annihilates a city-plus sized area. In a playful afternoon, he obliterates the world's armed forces because he's impatient to wait for Goku. Vegeta is more than three times as powerful. That's pretty far beyond Viltrumite feats.

    Though... DBZ power-levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    I would assume this is post-scourge, given that was a very, very long time ago.

    Vegeta should be soooooo much stronger than the Viltrumites, there really won't be much they can do to him. Nappa casually, with an off-hand gesture, annihilates a city-plus sized area. In a playful afternoon, he obliterates the world's armed forces because he's impatient to wait for Goku. Vegeta is more than three times as powerful. That's pretty far beyond Viltrumite feats.

    Though... DBZ power-levels.
    I'm actually now embarking on cataloging the strength feats from Dragon Ball so I can actually have a clear idea of where Z starts as a baseline because, in terms of actual physical feats (like lifting and smashing stuff) they aren't much to write home about in Viltrumite circles physically. I suspect it's going to have to rely on an algorithm.

    I'll be posting that write-up in my algorithms thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    I'm actually now embarking on cataloging the strength feats from Dragon Ball so I can actually have a clear idea of where Z starts as a baseline because, in terms of actual physical feats (like lifting and smashing stuff) they aren't much to write home about in Viltrumite circles physically. I suspect it's going to have to rely on an algorithm.

    I'll be posting that write-up in my algorithms thread.
    They don't really do a lot of lifting stuff, that's for sure.

    OTOH, their punches and kicks seem in the vicinity of as strong as their ki blasts (they hurt or don't hurt the same people) - yeah, it's going to need an algorithm. Dudes who punch with planet-sundering forces (not saying that Saiyan saga Vegeta does, but later in the series he is obviously casually past that level) have planet-sundering amounts of strength. Barely-a-super-saiyan Trunks casually annihilates two guys who casually annihilate planets.

    For this one - I don't think that most rank and file Viltrumites can tank even Nappa's "opening move." And Veggie is oceans beyond the guy. Obviously some of the named Viltrumites can take it - Thragg would find it a clever way to dry his moustache, I imagine, Conquest would probably have extra blood flooding his nether regions - but the others? Tanking "glass an entire city" level stuff? I'm a little leery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    I'm actually now embarking on cataloging the strength feats from Dragon Ball so I can actually have a clear idea of where Z starts as a baseline because, in terms of actual physical feats (like lifting and smashing stuff) they aren't much to write home about in Viltrumite circles physically. I suspect it's going to have to rely on an algorithm.

    I'll be posting that write-up in my algorithms thread.
    Here is Hazards unfinished thread in case you want a starting point:
    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...eat-Collection

    A lot of their strength relies on striking force, which like a lot of fictional martial artists, can differ radically from their lifting capability.

    For the thread itself; speed is the issue, as is range game. A full power Galick Gun would obliterate any Viltrumite, but the main issue is the fake moon Vegeta can dish out if things get too rough.
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