Page 1 of 22 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 326
  1. #1
    Astonishing Member Anthony W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    2,039

    Default Is Hollywood Using Diversity To Justify Potentially Doomed Franchises?

    Scott Mendolson

    "Hollywood is using inclusivity and diversity as an alibi for rebooting outdated franchises and past-their-prime properties, setting an entire generation of “not a white guy” talent up to fail commercially."


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...h=7b7bc83c3a3e

    On one hand I can see where he is coming from. No one wanted another Charlie's Angels. On the other hand sometimes the talent is failed by the creatives like Star Trek Discovery. Sometimes everything is terrible like in Terminatorark Fate
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

  2. #2
    Astonishing Member Castle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    2,077

    Default

    Sadly I am thinking ...yes.

    This Hollywood folks , keep using diversity as some random one sided political statement than a natural evolution of the world that is diverse based on good knowledge than shallow politics.

  3. #3
    Astonishing Member Panic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    2,556

    Default

    The should be making a Wizard of Earthsea trilogy. It's a classic series that was deliberately written with the main characters being of colour. Though perhaps it's not so well known any more?

  4. #4
    Astonishing Member Anthony W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    2,039

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    The should be making a Wizard of Earthsea trilogy. It's a classic series that was deliberately written with the main characters being of colour. Though perhaps it's not so well known any more?
    Is it toyetic?
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

  5. #5
    Astonishing Member Panic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    2,556

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Is it toyetic?
    Damn you for making me learn a new word!

    And no, probably not.

  6. #6
    Mighty Member luprki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Posts
    1,000

    Default

    Diversity is better than seeing a cisgender white male in every role. Even today movies still don’t reflect the reality of our diverse society.

  7. #7
    Ultimate Member Kirby101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    14,187

    Default

    Is there a problem here. Hollywood always wants to revise older franchises. They also see the need to diversify more. I don't see most of these as inherently white. The Equalizer went from a white Brit to a black dude to a black female, nothing in the character or story makes these not work.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

  8. #8
    A Wearied Madness Vakanai's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    8,662

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Scott Mendolson

    "Hollywood is using inclusivity and diversity as an alibi for rebooting outdated franchises and past-their-prime properties, setting an entire generation of “not a white guy” talent up to fail commercially."


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...h=7b7bc83c3a3e

    On one hand I can see where he is coming from. No one wanted another Charlie's Angels. On the other hand sometimes the talent is failed by the creatives like Star Trek Discovery. Sometimes everything is terrible like in Terminatorark Fate
    Superman...they consider Superman outdated and past-his-prime as a property.

  9. #9
    A Wearied Madness Vakanai's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    8,662

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by luprki View Post
    Diversity is better than seeing a cisgender white male in every role. Even today movies still don’t reflect the reality of our diverse society.
    But these sorts of reboots aren't really good faith honest attempts at diversity. They could push and serve diversity better by actually adapting already diverse characters and properties.

  10. #10
    Astonishing Member Anthony W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    2,039

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    Damn you for making me learn a new word!

    And no, probably not.
    What's really sad is that from now on whenever you start a new science fiction our fantasy property you will subconsciously scan for toyetic elements.
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

  11. #11
    A Wearied Madness Vakanai's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    8,662

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    What's really sad is that from now on whenever you start a new science fiction our fantasy property you will subconsciously scan for toyetic elements.
    Toyetic luckily isn't always a barrier to quality. It doesn't help of course, but it doesn't always hurt.

  12. #12
    Put a smile on that face Immortal Weapon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Bronx, New York
    Posts
    9,731

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by luprki View Post
    Diversity is better than seeing a cisgender white male in every role. Even today movies still donít reflect the reality of our diverse society.
    It would reflect better if it wasn't a lazy attempt to refresh a property. Let's do a new Pirates movie but with all women. Let's make 007 just because. Make Captain Kirk bi because why not?

    It doesn't add anything of value. If these things were done to add a different perspective then what we usually get I'll be all for it. As it stands we getting the same old stuff with a new coat of paint.

  13. #13
    Extraordinary Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2021
    Posts
    7,661

    Default

    But are people complaining because they want things to be done right, or because their favorite IP isn't so monochrome anymore?

  14. #14
    Astonishing Member Anthony W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    2,039

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Superman...they consider Superman outdated and past-his-prime as a property.
    Everyone working in Hollywood "Why would anyone with that much power not be a jerk?!"
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

  15. #15
    Take Me Higher The Negative Zone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Earth. (Unless I've been kidnapped by Skrulls)
    Posts
    2,198

    Default

    Honestly whenever Hollywood race changes or diversifies a reboot, I don't have the energy to argue if it's beneficial or not anymore to diversity. I'd rather just wait to see if it's actually good.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •