X-MEN 21 preview

[Hizashi]

That's objectification for you, my friend. And I'm sure some people will argue it's fair because it's what the female characters are put through often.

Personally, I prefer that it's not done to any character. Being sexy is different from being objectified, after all.

But you know... it's popular, I guess?



Yes, but that would be too much to ask Marvel, so I'd settle for them to just have more panel time together, even if it's just drinking Krakoan tea. This is how much I love them! Their friendship is so beautiful.

Well, yes, but I just think he looks ridiculous.

And more Jean and Storm is always welcome, just utilize them properly.

[Hizashi]

It's a gala. They are wearing their version of high fashion, hence the purposeful gaudiness of some of the designs.

It's terrible in real life, why are the heroes doing this if not to convey that they've already accelerated to the decadent stage of their society?

[Grinning Soul]

Well, yes, but I just think he looks ridiculous.

Again: that's objectification for you. It's in the name: it ignores the personality of the character for the sake of a provocative image. And look at the reactions: it works.

And more Jean and Storm is always welcome, just utilize them properly.

Yes, please. If they're going to be written badly, then it's better to leave them alone.

[Stormultt Divine]

STORM and JEAN.

My queens

[Rang10]

It's terrible in real life, why are the heroes doing this if not to convey that they've already accelerated to the decadent stage of their society?

They are on the same stage as humanity elites.

Cyke vs Cap
Dawn of Ass

Scott gonna lose again, very flat

[Cyke]

Cyke vs Cap
Dawn of Ass

I'll take that bet.

[Vishop]

Again: that's objectification for you. It's in the name: it ignores the personality of the character for the sake of a provocative image. And look at the reactions: it works.

Looks are suppose to be the main appeal of this gala with respect to all characters. It isn't always the same case in a normal situation.

[Grinning Soul]

Looks are suppose to be the main appeal of this gala with respect to all characters. It isn't always the same case in a normal situation.

I don't particularly like it, but I don't have a problem with the look per se. In this case, it's the choice of the angle/pose. It's not about the body or how revealing an outfit is either. It's the composition. A person/character can be entirely naked without any objectification.

Compare the two covers. They're both beautiful pieces of art. Same character. Same outfit. Different artistic eye:

https://i.redd.it/yzt0odlkgxw61.jpg
https://terrigen-cdn-dev.marvel.com/...sizexmen_0.jpg

You see the difference?

[Spiderfan001]

I don't particularly like it, but I don't have a problem with the look per se. In this case, it's the choice of the angle/pose. It's not about the body or how revealing an outfit is either. It's the composition. A person/character can be entirely naked without any objectification.

Compare the two covers. They're both beautiful pieces of art. Same character. Same outfit. Different artistic eye:

https://i.redd.it/yzt0odlkgxw61.jpg
https://terrigen-cdn-dev.marvel.com/...sizexmen_0.jpg

You see the difference?

I think the gala is an good excuse for this stuff.
Also this preview is a good example of how males are also objectified in comics as well.Nightwing,Spidey are the 2 most common examples.They were skintight suits as a costume.
Again it's okay with the gala.Also it helps they are in semi-natural poses and not like that ridiculous starfire beach panel.Then again if the writing is good I don't mind this for either gender as long as they don't push it.It's comic books.A lit unrealism is part of the experience

[Rang10]

I think the gala is an good excuse for this stuff.
Also this preview is a good example of how males are also objectified in comics as well.Nightwing,Spidey are the 2 most common examples.They were skintight suits as a costume.
Again it's okay with the gala.Also it helps they are in semi-natural poses and not like that ridiculous starfire beach panel.Then again if the writing is good I don't mind this for either gender as long as they don't push it.It's comic books.A lit unrealism is part of the experience

Men are being objectified very recently.

I think that artist should avoid it, it is comics not a porn magazine. Cyclops case looks bad and very gratuitous

[Spiderfan001]

Men are being objectified very recently.

I think that artist should avoid it, it is comics not a porn magazine. Cyclops case looks bad and very gratuitous

The amount they are being has increased.Also with characters like Namor it goes back a long time.
I think people care less with male objectification tbh.In the MCU we get so many shirtless guy scenes and no one says anything but any revealing girl costume people get angry.I get why though just think it should go both ways.
hell Nightwing has the tarantula situation and recently(i think) some lady slapped him on his butt.Nightwing said that it was invading his private space and the lady said it was about time he noticed.If you switch the roles this would have a much stronger reaction.
I think they should make all people look good if they are meant to be there is a limit specially with someone with human bodies.Emma or Poison I get.Spider-man and nightwing if drawn moderately I get.Namor and Thor I get.I get all that but they should tone it down for all of them and just keep it down.

[Devaishwarya]

So...an illustrated depiction of Scott's well-formed and fully clothed buttocks is...porn and is reprehensible?
If that is the case...I've been reading "porn magazines" since I was six years old. And I'm not about to stop anytime soon. LOL

[JB]

I think it just comes with superhero comics. Piotr in his underwear often while painting, the Goblin Queen and Prince. Not saying it's right or wrong but it's been going on for a while. I don't mind at all.

[Rang10]

The amount they are being has increased.Also with characters like Namor it goes back a long time.
I think people care less with male objectification tbh.In the MCU we get so many shirtless guy scenes and no one says anything but any revealing girl costume people get angry.I get why though just think it should go both ways.
hell Nightwing has the tarantula situation and recently(i think) some lady slapped him on his butt.Nightwing said that it was invading his private space and the lady said it was about time he noticed.If you switch the roles this would have a much stronger reaction.
I think they should make all people look good if they are meant to be there is a limit specially with someone with human bodies.Emma or Poison I get.Spider-man and nightwing if drawn moderately I get.Namor and Thor I get.I get all that but they should tone it down for all of them and just keep it down.

I think there is a huge difference between sexualized and idealized. GRINNING SOUL did a perfect post on it.
Continue on the idealized beautiful heroes, but turn it down on sexualizing them

[Devaishwarya]

Representational (not actual) "Porn" is in the eyes of the beholder. Is someone looks at that image of Scott and automatically thinks "XXX" then that's the viewer's issue.
Werneck is gay and has a gay following especially among the XM-fanbase...so he clearly knows what captures our attention (fabulush clothing and round firm derriers) and I love him for it.