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[Rang10]

Representational (not actual) "Porn" is in the eyes of the beholder. Is someone looks at that image of Scott and automatically thinks "XXX" then that's the viewer's issue.
Werneck is gay and has a gay following especially among the XM-fanbase...so he clearly knows what captures our attention (fabulush clothing and round firm derriers) and I love him for it.

I don't believe on it, the artist had the intention to sexualized Scott, even if for me it failed because it was a ridiculous choice

[Grinning Soul]

The way I see it, it's not about how tight or revealing the outfit is. Super heroes who train a lot will have amazing bodies and they wear tight outfits. Like athletes. No problem with it.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if a character was drawn nude, full frontal, with nipples and genitals showing, as long as it made sense for the scene. Why would I mind? That's just the human body.

The difference is in how the human body is being portrayed. It’s about the artistic eye.

If I'm not in favour of female objectification, I believe I shouldn't support male objectification either, even though I enjoy looking at the male body much more than the female body. But to each their own.

Once more: it's not about being beautiful or sexy. It’s not about outlandish fashion or tight outfits. It's about the choice to represent the character in an objectified way.

[RamaBird]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if a character was drawn nude, full frontal, with nipples and genitals showing, as long as it made sense for the scene. Why would I mind? That's just the human body.

I oppose! Most male writers can't help but power up their favorites at any chance they get. You want to introduce genitals into that?

[Grinning Soul]

I oppose! Most male writers can't help but power up their favorites at any chance they get. You want to introduce genitals into that?

I don't want it. I don't think it's needed. But if it made sense for the scene, it wouldn't shock me. It's just the human body.

[Devaishwarya]

So you admittedly enjoy watching beauty-full male bodies.
Why should a straight man or lesbian feel any less for enjoying watching beauty-full female bodies? (as a gay man myself, I also very much admire the female form in all its beauty)

While I agree, some artists, do cross some aesthetic lines and boundaries...The beauty-full bodies existing (in real or in art) is not the problem here. It's the viewer's intent that should be questioned.

Some looked at that image and thought...nice buns!
Some looked at that image and thought...objectifiable porn!

[Hizashi]

The way I see it, it's not about how tight or revealing the outfit is. Super heroes who train a lot will have amazing bodies and they wear tight outfits. Like athletes. No problem with it.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if a character was drawn nude, full frontal, with nipples and genitals showing, as long as it made sense for the scene. Why would I mind? That's just the human body.

The difference is in how the human body is being portrayed. It’s about the artistic eye.

If I'm not in favour of female objectification, I believe I shouldn't support male objectification either, even though I enjoy looking at the male body much more than the female body. But to each their own.

Once more: it's not about being beautiful or sexy. It’s not about outlandish fashion or tight outfits. It's about the choice to represent the character in an objectified way.

While I generally agree with your point (I think there's a tasteful way to accomplish these things or certain context that makes it work) my problem is just with how excessive this all is. Why is everyone participating in this?

[Grinning Soul]

So you admittedly enjoy watching beauty-full male bodies.

Yes.

Why should a straight man or lesbian feel any less for enjoying watching beauty-full female bodies? (as a gay man myself, I also very much admire the female form in all its beauty)

They shouldn't.

It's not about the enjoyment or sexual orientation of the consumer. It's about the artistic choices.

While I agree, some artists, do cross some aesthetic lines and boundaries...The beauty-full bodies existing (in real or in art) is not the problem here. It's the viewer's intent that should be questioned.

Some looked at that image and thought...nice buns!
Some looked at that image and thought...objectifiable porn!

Which is it?

I never compared it to porn... It's the first time I'm even using the word here. Beautiful bodies can be portrayed in many ways that are not objectified, they can be entirely naked without being objectified (it's not the first time I'm saying it).

It's not in the eye of the beholder. It's literally in the eye of the artist. The artists choose what is the focal point, the framing, the pose, the facial and body expression, the lightning on the scene... etc...

If it doesn't bother you, it's okay. Just enjoy.

[Grinning Soul]

While I generally agree with your point (I think there's a tasteful way to accomplish these things or certain context that makes it work) my problem is just with how excessive this all is. Why is everyone participating in this?

It's okay they do. It's public. It's just getting a bit heated and I have the feeling people aren't actually reading what the other posters are saying anymore... *sigh* Time to shut up about it.

[Devaishwarya]

While I generally agree with your point (I think there's a tasteful way to accomplish these things or certain context that makes it work) my problem is just with how excessive this all is. Why is everyone participating in this?

Participating in what, exactly? The Gala?

...it's a party. Who doesn't love to dress up and attend a fabulush party?

And really, apart from a very select few, the vast majority of outfits are not revealing or objectifiable.

@G.Soul...I never said you looked at it as porn... I know you didn't. That was in specific reference to another post, not yours.

[Rang10]

I don't want it. I don't think it's needed. But if it made sense for the scene, it wouldn't shock me. It's just the human body.

I don't think any frontal nudity makes sense for the scene. I was reading a comic with some frontal nudity and it came very gratuitous. Just showing because they can

[MentalManipulator]

This Gala didn't even start and it's already creating so many iconic moments for the X-Men. I'm adorng every second.

Hope the stories deliver. What I want most is some good character moments and interactions. What actually happens is not a priority for me as much as HOW it happens.

Loving all the omegas together.

[MarvelMaster616]

So...an illustrated depiction of Scott's well-formed and fully clothed buttocks is...porn and is reprehensible?
If that is the case...I've been reading "porn magazines" since I was six years old. And I'm not about to stop anytime soon. LOL

Nor should you stop. It's not Scott's fault that Dauterman draws his butt so well.

[Wiccan]

Scott's bubble butt getting people mad is just hilarious.

[MarvelMaster616]

That's it, that's the plot of AvX 2.

I'd read that in a heartbeat.

[Hulkout42]

Please tell me Namor is the murder victim

That jackass has had it coming for 80+ years

He won't stay dead is the problem, but it begs the question, if he was the victim and since he is a high profile mutant, would they bring him back immediately?