Metahumans treatment within the DC universe

[Primal Slayer]

Metahumans are practically DC's version of Mutants, born with a metagene that grants them special powers.

Some of the most notable Metas are: Black Canary, Black Lightning, Plastic Man, Fire, Killer Frost

How do you feel DC handles Metas? Should there be more? Less? Should they have a similar story where Metahumans are under scrutiny and forced to possible register?

Should there be something that differentiates them from the likes of Flash/Superman/WW/J'onn? Or do you consider them Metahumans?

Barry Allen for instance is usually granted his powers by mixing chemicals and being hit with Lightning thus changing his molecular structure and depending on the origin tying him to the Speedforce which also grants him his speed.

[Phoenixx9]

Maybe the DC Metas are treated better in general because DC Earth tends to respect and treat its heroes better than does Marvel Earth?

Or maybe because there are so few metas? Or their "Meta-ness" is not known, overtly stated, etc, so they just fall into the general "super hero" or "super villain" class without a more definite distinction?

Or maybe it is because there is no very powerful ultra-maniacal villain trying to lead all the evil metas against the humans and obviously stating to the public that metas are better and that they should subjugate and destroy the humans?

[Alpha]

I never really liked the concept of metahumans. Mutants unto themselves are already a fraught concept in the Marvel Universe. Their place in society doesn't make sense unless you make all mutations into forms of disability, which solves the "mutant metaphor" as a stand in for the real world community of the disabled and various real mutations, and explains why people would arbor that specific kind of fear and hatred for the x-gene, since yeah it gives you powers, but you are never able to leave a normal life since you either lost use of your legs, or you have a weak spine, or you are blind and death, or something like that.

Metahumans in the DC Universe don't adhere to the metaphor for the discriminated, which makes them more consistent, but they take away one of the coolest aspects of super hero stories, how the hero got his powers.

Waking up one day to find out you have powers isn't nearly as cool as being badly burned by a terrorist attack and then having a criminal Kingpin offer you a prosthetic skin that makes you invulnerable, but also forces you to do jobs for him from time to time, even though you are trying to be a hero and stop crime.

So I prefer the idea that metahuman is just an explanation for how humans can survive fatal accidents at times and aquire super powers. At least that way their origin story still has a dramatic moment where everything went to hell and fate intervened. But you don't even need "metagenes" for this. Just create a supernatural deity in the universe that has a sinister plan for the future of humanity and from time to time this deity intervenes in tragedies only to create even more chaos via super powers.

[Lightning63]

I've always seen Metahumans as DC's blanket term for a superhuman character e.g. Superman, Aquaman and Reverse Flash.

[Rac7d*]

I've always seen Metahumans as DC's blanket term for a superhuman character e.g. Superman, Aquaman and Reverse Flash.

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[Robotman]

I've always seen Metahumans as DC's blanket term for a superhuman character e.g. Superman, Aquaman and Reverse Flash.

Yeah, meta-human is a blanket term for every person who has superpowers, but there are also people born with a meta-gene. Something that can allow them to hyper adapt to trauma. It's a fun explanation for why superheroes are created from being in a terrible lab accident, doused in strange chemicals, hit with cosmic radiation, or even caught in the blast of a gamma bomb.

There are some unfortunate people whose meta-gene turns them into monsters in order to survive the accident. Those are the ones who either become villains or heroes who are persecuted for how they look.

I don't think metas are necessarily persecuted like mutants, but there have definitely been times that they are exploited. A big plot of the Young Justice show has been evil organizations trying to trigger a person's meta-gene in order to control them as weapons. Amanda Waller has made a pretty good living doing that.

The whole X Men concept would make a lot more sense if they didn't live in a world full of super powered beings. Though mutants often have the misfortune of looking different or even scary to the average dumb fearful human.

[Agent Z]

I never really liked the concept of metahumans. Mutants unto themselves are already a fraught concept in the Marvel Universe. Their place in society doesn't make sense unless you make all mutations into forms of disability, which solves the "mutant metaphor" as a stand in for the real world community of the disabled and various real mutations, and explains why people would arbor that specific kind of fear and hatred for the x-gene, since yeah it gives you powers, but you are never able to leave a normal life since you either lost use of your legs, or you have a weak spine, or you are blind and death, or something like that.

Metahumans in the DC Universe don't adhere to the metaphor for the discriminated, which makes them more consistent, but they take away one of the coolest aspects of super hero stories, how the hero got his powers.

Waking up one day to find out you have powers isn't nearly as cool as being badly burned by a terrorist attack and then having a criminal Kingpin offer you a prosthetic skin that makes you invulnerable, but also forces you to do jobs for him from time to time, even though you are trying to be a hero and stop crime.

So I prefer the idea that metahuman is just an explanation for how humans can survive fatal accidents at times and aquire super powers. At least that way their origin story still has a dramatic moment where everything went to hell and fate intervened. But you don't even need "metagenes" for this. Just create a supernatural deity in the universe that has a sinister plan for the future of humanity and from time to time this deity intervenes in tragedies only to create even more chaos via super powers.

Metagenes don't stop that type of story from happening. They're just one of several ways people acquire superpowers in the DC universe.

[Alpha]

Metagenes don't stop that type of story from happening. They're just one of several ways people acquire superpowers in the DC universe.

Most definitely, but it's a crutch that writers shouldn't use at all. Black Lightning should have a cool and meaningful backstory for his powers, like Luke Cage does. Black Canary should also have one. All the Spider-man villains have an origin story for their powers, seems a shame that even these heroes don't.

[Killerbee911]

Not having meta-humans calling themselves homo superior certainly helps avoid some very bad images in the common people..

Or Maybe DC has superhero group that actually take up for ALL superpower people instead of hanging them out the dry

Most definitely, but it's a crutch that writers shouldn't use at all. Black Lightning should have a cool and meaningful backstory for his powers, like Luke Cage does. Black Canary should also have one. All the Spider-man villains have an origin story for their powers, seems a shame that even these heroes don't.

Crutch? You did the same thing. You suggested that basically that everyone gets their power by accident via supernatural deity. Which makes nobody origin meaningful because everyone is the same after awhile.

Individual origin stories get playout after a while and it is hard to think up unique good ones there only some much you can new stuff you can do. A generic system that give allows people to get freely powers which is important because heroes & VILLAINS all of them need powers and allows unique origin stories to stand out. This is a crude way explaining it but imagine for some reason the hottest person ever decide to hook up with you and you go to tell friends this amazing story but before you can tell your story, your tells a story about how he accidently hook up with hottest person, Then next friend walks in and he tells the story about he accidently hook up with hottest person ever and this happens couple more times before you can tell your story. All of sudden your story doesn't seem that amazing now? Right?

Your powers don't need a back story if a character has a good backstory, Black Canary being bitten by a radioactive canary does not make her a better character, Black Lighting getting struck by radioactive lighting does not make him a better character. It just makes them lesser version of something you saw before and character like Wolverine, Storm and Nightcrawler are just fine without origin story for their powers. Everybody getting power via accident is just as "generic" as people being born with powers.

[Korath]

Maybe the DC Metas are treated better in general because DC Earth tends to respect and treat its heroes better than does Marvel Earth?

Or maybe because there are so few metas? Or their "Meta-ness" is not known, overtly stated, etc, so they just fall into the general "super hero" or "super villain" class without a more definite distinction?

Or maybe it is because there is no very powerful ultra-maniacal villain trying to lead all the evil metas against the humans and obviously stating to the public that metas are better and that they should subjugate and destroy the humans?

Not having meta-humans calling themselves homo superior certainly helps avoid some very bad images in the common people.

Also, metagene needs an exterior event to quick in, unlike the X-Gene which seems to awaken automatically at puberty at the latest. Basically, on DC you can have the meta-gene and because you don't live in the old US of A, you won't have much opportunities to wake it up, since most of the events happen there. Of course, we know that it's possible to create a whole lot of meta in one go, as seen with Gnomon's plan in Batman and the Signal, but usually speaking, metas are rare, and they often lack extremely powerful abilities (most metas are closer to Duke Thomas' range than Black Lightning or Geo-Force, basically).

And of course there is the Forces' users (Speed, Strength, Sage, etc.) who may or may not be metas themselves to unlock the access to the Force they wield.

[Rod G]

Metahumans are practically DC's version of Mutants, born with a metagene that grants them special powers.

Some of the most notable Metas are: Black Canary, Black Lightning, Plastic Man, Fire, Killer Frost

How do you feel DC handles Metas? Should there be more? Less? Should they have a similar story where Metahumans are under scrutiny and forced to possible register?

Should there be something that differentiates them from the likes of Flash/Superman/WW/J'onn? Or do you consider them Metahumans?

Barry Allen for instance is usually granted his powers by mixing chemicals and being hit with Lightning thus changing his molecular structure and depending on the origin tying him to the Speedforce which also grants him his speed.

By that logic, Captain Comet is a Meta.