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    Default Khan vs. Ozymandias

    Khan
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    Scenario 1: Khazan

    Scenario 2: One month of prep for each. They’re fighting over our Earth.

    Scenario 3: They swap places at the start of their respective films (e.g., Ozymandias plays a role in Star Trek Into Darkness, and Khan sets up shop in Watchmen). What happens?

    Final Scenario: Composite Khan vs. Composite Ozymandias


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    #1: Ozzy is a bullet-timer, and I don't think Khan is, so Ozzy wins in Khazan.

    #2: Khan has access to much more advanced technology. He stomps.

    #3: Khan on Watchmen Earth gathers together the most eugenically superior of Earth's human beings, establishes a hidden tech stronghold, and waits out the inevitable nuclear war. Then his super-soldier race emerges, using the advanced tech to restore the Earth.

    No idea what Ozzy does in the Trekverse.

    #4: Ozzy is still a bullet-timer. Is composite Khan? Don't think so. Ozzy wins.

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    not sure if veldt can overcome khan's durablity and soak, since khan could get into a straight up fist fight with spock and make it a match. i'd have to re-watch some of his stuff to see where i'd put him. although, the board is kind of iffy on ozy's status as a bullet timer.

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    All Bullet-timers are not equal. Feats are what are important, and Ozzy's single bullet-time feat was him barely getting his hands on a crappy pistol round, after concentrating and preparing himself and likely predicting roughly when the shooter would fire.

    Basically, among bullet-timers Movie Ozzy is only a step above the absolute worst bullet-timer around - comic Ozzy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    All Bullet-timers are not equal. Feats are what are important, and Ozzy's single bullet-time feat was him barely getting his hands on a crappy pistol round, after concentrating and preparing himself and likely predicting roughly when the shooter would fire.

    Basically, among bullet-timers Movie Ozzy is only a step above the absolute worst bullet-timer around - comic Ozzy.
    hence when ozy showed up again, i had to ask if his new feats put him into bullet-timing territory.

    still iffy on him being able to hurt khan though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    hence when ozy showed up again, i had to ask if his new feats put him into bullet-timing territory.

    still iffy on him being able to hurt khan though.
    We have more Ozzy? O_o Interesting.
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    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers." - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman." - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    All Bullet-timers are not equal. Feats are what are important, and Ozzy's single bullet-time feat was him barely getting his hands on a crappy pistol round, after concentrating and preparing himself and likely predicting roughly when the shooter would fire.

    Basically, among bullet-timers Movie Ozzy is only a step above the absolute worst bullet-timer around - comic Ozzy.
    Could probably even argue he's not a bullet timer just an aim dodger, right?
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    We have more Ozzy? O_o Interesting.
    from "doomsday clock". it was a scene where ozy was talking to lex and he dodges a shot from the comedian. i showed it to nik but he said it wasn't a bullet timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    We have more Ozzy? O_o Interesting.
    In the newest HBO series an Old Ozy bullet times again, so he's 2 for 2 at catching bullets from Pistols.
    And with that the rest of the Domino's will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

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    In HBO's Watchmen, Ozymandias caught a rifle round between his fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    In the newest HBO series an Old Ozy bullet times again, so he's 2 for 2 at catching bullets from Pistols.
    that i didn't know. mainly because i didn't watch the series and wasn't gonna waste my time.

    in that case, which feats do we use for ozy, since both the show and "doomsday clock" are considered sequels to the original book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    that i didn't know. mainly because i didn't watch the series and wasn't gonna waste my time.

    in that case, which feats do we use for ozy, since both the show and "doomsday clock" are considered sequels to the original book?
    Well we've got Composite Veidt in the final scenario so we can use all of them for that one at least.

    Doomsday Clock crossovers over into DC right? Shouldn't that be considered AU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    Well we've got Composite Veidt in the final scenario so we can use all of them for that one at least.

    Doomsday Clock crossovers over into DC right? Shouldn't that be considered AU?
    the writers consider "doomsday clock" to be a direct sequel to the original since it takes place right after ozy's little plan fails and the world basically blows up. plus, there has been massive build up that dr. M had been actively fucking with DC canon for god knows how long. so i can't really say if it is AU or not. same with the tv show. but since alan moore had jack shit to do with either book, there is a argument to be had that both shows are AU.

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    If the dude is catching rifle bullets between his fingers now, he's waaaaay past a lot of bullet-timers out there.
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    "...the Myths Transformed version of the legendarium, in which the Moon is Melkor's attempt to make his own Arda with blackjack and hookers." - Estrecca

    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik Hasta

    "[Kent] Nelson was nearly invariably presented as the guy who, barring the Spectre, made everyone else generally gasp and go "Doctor Fate don't shiv, he balls nasty.", even Superman." - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    that i didn't know. mainly because i didn't watch the series and wasn't gonna waste my time.
    FWIW, the series is pretty good. It's not as singularly clever as the original book but it strikes a really good tone and is about a bunch of stuff which it handles to varying degrees of competency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    If the dude is catching rifle bullets between his fingers now, he's waaaaay past a lot of bullet-timers out there.
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