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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I'm not really expecting it to effect the plot or character at all but I guess I'm kind of curious who they'll cast for Sam and Lucy if they show up.
    I’m very curious if Sam will show up here as well and what his relationship with Superman would be
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I’m very curious if Sam will show up here as well and what his relationship with Superman would be
    Lois looks so exuberant and enthusiastic that the contrast with her dad as a military general might be kind of hilarious .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I’m very curious if Sam will show up here as well and what his relationship with Superman would be
    Since this is early days, expect it to be negative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bat39 View Post
    Since this is early days, expect it to be negative.
    Works just fine for me, I like Sam as a foe for Clark. Would love if Project 7734 showed up here as well.
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    The show looks cute. I could never get into Superman the Animated Series so I’ll give this a try for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    That's what I was saying a few pages back when the race bending conversation took off.

    I'm all in for representation, and anyone who knows me knows that. But this isn't representation; using Ron Troupe, John Henry, Nat Irons, Gangbuster, Maggie Sawyer, Shay Veritas....*that* would be representation. What we have here is taking a secondary character who's just barely important enough to be called "important" and making a superficial change (let's be real, Jim hasn't mattered very much in a long damn time). Now, maybe the characters I just mentioned will show up, I wouldn't be surprised if at least a few of them did. And that'll be great. But they're not being hyped up as part of the core cast.

    This almost never happens to the "truly" important characters (sometimes, but not often), just the ones who have stuck around long enough to be quasi-recognizable. And it's usually the ginger redhead, because gingers are the only group where it's still socially acceptable to joke about them and nobody is gonna get pissy about the demographic being removed/changed. This isn't a win for diversity, this is ignoring the incredible PoC who already exist and throwing a thin coating of paint on a white guy.

    Now, don't get me wrong, there are times when a little race bending can be a benefit. Lois being half Asian works really well for me; her father's a general and at some point he came home from overseas with a wife and daughter. Cool, that helps play up Lois' background as a army brat and it doesn't change her visual to such a degree that she's unrecognizable. But Jimmy being black is a pretty big shift, and doing that while someone like Ron Troupe remains unused just rubs me the wrong way. It just feels like a lazy attempt to diversify while leaving the actual diverse characters out of the equation. And I'm not even saying they should replace Jim with Ron; use both!

    As for Lois being petite, I'm not bothered by it. Lois should be a beautiful woman but that doesn't just mean "porn star curves" either. I didn't think "young male" when I saw her; it's clearly a woman, she's cute (for a drawing), and her personality really comes across in that promo art.

    And all this....it's just nitpicking. I am beyond excited that Clark is finally getting a cartoon again, I'm beyond thrilled that it's aimed at kids and an all-ages audience. I might have to wait until the blu-ray for this but it's definitely gonna find its way into my daughter's movie collection.
    Goddammit Ascended. Why do you always say what I want to say but better haha.

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    I wonder if they'll have Lex as a romantic rival for Lois...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I wonder if they'll have Lex as a romantic rival for Lois...
    I'm wondering if Lex will have hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm a Fish View Post
    I'm wondering if Lex will have hair.
    If he does, I don't expect it to last long .

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    curious. So both of them are new-ish reporters in this version. The 1978 movie posited their first meeting as when both would have been 30-ish.
    The change to Jimmy is clearly a nod to Supergirl.
    I wonder what villains will be on the show, and anybody who will be all new characters, hopefully that will happen too.

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    They are definitely not 30 here lol. Looks like they’re both 23 at the absolute oldest, with Jimmy easily still being a teenager. Or maybe they decided to make all three around the same age, like it was in the New 52? I didn’t mind that, helped Jimmy feel like a peer.
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    From that picture, Jimmy definitely looks like a slightly-outside observer to the madness that is the Lois & Clark duo, so I'd assume he's slightly younger to complement that impression. Definitely not a teenager, though.

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    I wonder if Lucy, Lana or Lori will show up. No one uses Lori.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    They are definitely not 30 here lol. Looks like they’re both 23 at the absolute oldest, with Jimmy easily still being a teenager. Or maybe they decided to make all three around the same age, like it was in the New 52? I didn’t mind that, helped Jimmy feel like a peer.
    They all look like the same age as the Man of Tomorrow cast, oddly enough.

    It's kind of funny how much this seems to mirror that cast dynamic, although we never saw Jimmy in MoT (in before he's black in that universe too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    I wonder if Lucy, Lana or Lori will show up. No one uses Lori.
    Lucy - There’s a chance, if Sam shows up I could easily see Lucy showing up as well, working alongside him.

    Lana - Don’t know, she might show up in flashbacks, but I doubt she’d be anything other than flashback or a one off episode material. If they do bring in Steel, I’d like to see him and Lana hook up, I enjoyed that relationship in the comics.

    Lori - Probably won’t but she should.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    They all look like the same age as the Man of Tomorrow cast, oddly enough.

    It's kind of funny how much this seems to mirror that cast dynamic, although we never saw Jimmy in MoT (in before he's black in that universe too).
    Yeah, they’re both starring young Supermen. I hope this series doesn’t mean we won’t ever get to see Criss headline another solo movie (I know that’s greedy of me, but they’re not going to stop making Batman solos!) since I really like his take. The DTV’s can be a more mature young Superman whereas this will be all ages, so I’d like to see them adapt different storylines.
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