Are Batfans the Most Greedy Fanbase of all time?

[Alpha]

This is freaking ridiculous, a Batman in his 40s will still be written as just as strong as a Batman in his 20s. It's all up to the writer. You guys are so dull when you create random rules for what how realistic Batman should be. Heck, Bane broke his back and Batman still acts like he is in his prime. Nothing about his physical state makes sense.

[Nite-Wing]

This is freaking ridiculous, a Batman in his 40s will still be written as just as strong as a Batman in his 20s. It's all up to the writer. You guys are so dull when you create random rules for what how realistic Batman should be. Heck, Bane broke his back and Batman still acts like he is in his prime. Nothing about his physical state makes sense.

This is not true at all
Batman is a regular human and any time he shows less than top tier physical anything in a comic people make the joke that he is past his prime and getting old.
Bruce is a human being at the end of the day doing a profession that is drastically more taxing than any sport or career every single night.
He should be young simply because DC needs to be invested in him doing what he does forever with no complications
They should not be invested in trying to fit in 15 people in the batman family by expanding his age past the point of believability

I mean clearly Bruce aging is an issue for some writers, Snyder had his clone story, and post crisis Bruce fell into lazurus pits more than once

Maybe DC would avoid all of this by just hard setting his age between 25-35
beginning of career to prime forever

[Drako]

35 is not bad for a current Batman. You can say he started as a 20 year old so you can make his career as long as 15 years. Dick joined as a 10 year old, so now he is 25. With this you can strech a bit and put the others in there too. Or he can start at 18 and have a little more time add to his career.

[Arsenal]

Some of Bruce’s most notable rogues include a giant crocodile/human hybrid, a sentient shape shifting clay monster and a 1,000 man who runs a cult of assassins yet Bruce as a 40 year old Batman is where things stop being realistic?

It’s long overdue that the nonsense about Batman’s world being more believable/realistic than the rest of the DCU comes to an end.

[Alan2099]

For a fictional character, what is the difference between being 25 and 35? Characters are either a baby, a kid, a teenager, an adult, or really old. Attaching numbers to these things doesn't change how people write or draw them.

If you're worried about characters declining as they get old, let me tell you a little secret: It's fiction. They don't have to.

You want explanations, they went to a special Amazon resort that revitalizes their youth, or got vitamin pills from the future. Somebody rewrote reality and knocked smoothed out a few wrinkles and gray hairs when they changed them. Heck, you could just have a character ask them how they kept in such good shape and they could blow it off with "good clean living." Unless you're going into this looking for flaws, nobody really cares that much.

How old are Batman and Superman? They're adult age.

[Green Goblin of Sector 2814]

Without entering into the merits of comics, 40 maybe be pretty young but you ain't the same as at 25. Athletes relative short span career confirms that. Have you ever seen a 45year old athlete winning in sports and beating younger athletes? Even the best athletes ever can't compete anymore at certain age.

Tom Brady? You know, the guy who is well into his 40s and still keeps winning Super Bowl championships. There’s also Dara Torres who was still winning Olympic medals for swimming at 41. And then there’s Oksana Chusovitina who was also still competing as an Olympic gymnast at age 45.

I could go on and on, as there plenty of other examples. But the main point is: assuming that post-40 is too old to compete in any sort of way with younger individuals in an athletic capacity is just an ageist stereotype. That stereotype also would definitely not apply to anyone like Bruce, who has basically spent his whole life training and honing himself physically, while avoiding any vices that would prematurely age him. He doesn’t drink, he doesn’t smoke, he keeps himself on top physical shape. So, there’s really no reason to assume he WOULDN’T be able to be Batman in his 40s.

[Alpha]

This is not true at all
Batman is a regular human and any time he shows less than top tier physical anything in a comic people make the joke that he is past his prime and getting old.
Bruce is a human being at the end of the day doing a profession that is drastically more taxing than any sport or career every single night.
He should be young simply because DC needs to be invested in him doing what he does forever with no complications
They should not be invested in trying to fit in 15 people in the batman family by expanding his age past the point of believability

I mean clearly Bruce aging is an issue for some writers, Snyder had his clone story, and post crisis Bruce fell into lazurus pits more than once

Maybe DC would avoid all of this by just hard setting his age between 25-35
beginning of career to prime forever

Again, it makes no sense for Batman to be jumping from rooftops and going up against Superman and all these other things after his back was broken. Nothing about Batman being 35 makes it more realistic that he is still around doing what he does. Him being older makes sense for the narrative and makes no difference in terms of believability. We already crossed that line long ago.

[Nite-Wing]

Some of Bruce’s most notable rogues include a giant crocodile/human hybrid, a sentient shape shifting clay monster and a 1,000 man who runs a cult of assassins yet Bruce as a 40 year old Batman is where things stop being realistic?

It’s long overdue that the nonsense about Batman’s world being more believable/realistic than the rest of the DCU comes to an end.

Okay so if this is the avenue you want to take
Let's just make Bruce and every street level hero superhuman
He's now immortal and can control Bats akin to antman or something
DC is a ridiculous medium of comics after all clearly no character needs to be held to a standard for some things

[Alan2099]

Okay so if this is the avenue you want to take
Let's just make Bruce and every street level hero superhuman
He's now immortal and can control Bats akin to antman or something
DC is a ridiculous medium of comics after all clearly no character needs to be held to a standard for some things

Your sarcasm isn't as biting as you'd like to think it is.

Your ideas aren't even a fraction of as absurd as lot of the things that they actually have done before.

[The Darknight Detective]

To not hold back several dozen, or even hundreds of other characters. To not have to literally gut the universe of decades of progress, completely and utterly ruining swarms of character and diversity....just so you can say Batman's age is somewhere in his 30s.

And it's really only Batman. The age stuff is such a non-factor to the rest of Bruce's peers. Ollie even kind of works better as an older guy despite also not having superpowers to override his age being a factor.

It's not even just about the idea of replacing Batman. Other great characters who have NOTHING to do with Batman outside of having interacted with him in the past are going to be erased and destroyed -- and have been -- on the rhetoric that Batman is too important to get older. This idea is part of the WHY behind the entire premise of this thread. That other characters and their fans must suffer to keep Batman on top.

First of all, it's not just Bruce, but Clark, too. Yes, maybe he can live for a long, long time, but his supporting cast can't. Diana also has the same problem. So if you want to hate Batman for holding back other characters, you have to hate the other two equally.

Look, I don't know what to tell any of you. Unless one of you somehow takes over WB/DC, nothing is going to change. The cruelest thing DC management did was to start the aging process back in the '80s when they knew it could go only so long, IMO.

[atomicskull]

I think this is why i read less DC. Other fanbases don't matter to them. They only promote Bat stuff and everyone else gets crumbs. And then fans try to use the lazy argument "he sells" That's easy for you to say when your fave has a billion books on the shelves. DC should just sell their other characters since their content is nothing but Batman and his universe. There's literally no shame in that. These characters will never have a fighting chance.

[Alpha]

Okay so if this is the avenue you want to take
Let's just make Bruce and every street level hero superhuman
He's now immortal and can control Bats akin to antman or something
DC is a ridiculous medium of comics after all clearly no character needs to be held to a standard for some things

The ridiculous idea is that Bruce can still go up against superhuman threats, including Deathstroke, and fall from various heights, ans be smacked around, and lift heacy things, after having his back broken by Bane and 10 years of being stabbed and punched every night. Bruce would have been out of comission after 2 years if we were being serious. Heck, he doesn't even get a good night of sleep, which is essential for the human body to stay healthy.

You ignore all these things, but now you make it a big deal that instead of being 35 he is 45. It's absurd.

[Alpha]

First of all, it's not just Bruce, but Clark, too. Yes, maybe he can live for a long, long time, but his supporting cast can't. Diana also has the same problem. So if you want to hate Batman for holding back other characters, you have to hate the other two equally.

Lois Lane could easily be 40 or even 50. In fact, I think it would make her even more fun since she would be weary of the world but still full of attitude and energy, and even more fiery.

And Steve Trevor has been holding back Diana in a lot of ways so I don't see the problem there at all.

[Dred]

First of all, it's not just Bruce, but Clark, too. Yes, maybe he can live for a long, long time, but his supporting cast can't. Diana also has the same problem. So if you want to hate Batman for holding back other characters, you have to hate the other two equally.

Look, I don't know what to tell any of you. Unless one of you somehow takes over WB/DC, nothing is going to change. The cruelest thing DC management did was to start the aging process back in the '80s when they knew it could go only so long, IMO.

The cruelest thing they did was make a bunch of great stories and great characters.

The CRUELEST thing?

I really hope you just misphrased what you meant because there's absolutely no way even you believe that. I'm sure you can name a dozen crueler things DC has done besides...making Nightwing and the New Teen Titans and a bunch of other new characters.

[The Darknight Detective]

Lois Lane could easily be 40 or even 50. In fact, I think it would make her even more fun since she would be weary of the world but still full of attitude and energy, and even more fiery.

And Steve Trevor has been holding back Diana in a lot of ways so I don't see the problem there at all.

It isn't a matter of being able to do it or not (of course they can), but DC won't. Does anybody think I'm wrong, about this, BTW?