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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse Happy View Post
    Fun fact: reentry heat doesn't come from air friction, but from compressing the air in front of the spacecraft. Apparently this starts getting noticeable around Mach 2.

    https://what-if.xkcd.com/28/
    So he may not be at re-entry levels then eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    So he may not be at re-entry levels then eh?
    Well, if he's making fireballs by punching the air really hard, it would imply his punches are going significantly faster than Mach 2.

    Typical reentry is apparently near Mach 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse Happy View Post
    Well, if he's making fireballs by punching the air really hard, it would imply his punches are going significantly faster than Mach 2.

    Typical reentry is apparently near Mach 25.
    Seems to be mostly speed than strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Seems to be mostly speed than strength.
    Did you mean "strength than speed"? I got confused because I started thinking of Gai's Morning Peacock move, when Hazard might've been talking about travel speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse Happy View Post
    Did you mean "strength than speed"? I got confused because I started thinking of Gai's Morning Peacock move, when Hazard might've been talking about travel speed.

    I would think it was due to him hitting the air so hard. But I suppose the flames would not be projectiles then huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Seems to be mostly speed than strength.
    At a given point, your strongest punch and your fastest punch are the same thing.

    Granted that's not necessarily true, but Naruto likes to selectively apply physics.

    Edit: As an aside, the explanation for Afternoon Tiger is "I'm that fast".

    And Naruto does have other meteors that do this, one of which falls down the old fashioned way.

    Edit 2: In Gai's case strongest punch and fastest punch are the same thing, as shown by Afternoon Tiger and other stuff.
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    So..old thead but I am curious Haz; where would you put the fastest characters at now? Are they in the low hundreds of mach speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    So..old thead but I am curious Haz; where would you put the fastest characters at now? Are they in the low hundreds of mach speed?
    Best Reaction Feat would be Naruto reacting to Toneri's Super Laser Sword.

    That thing grows big enough to cut the moon in half.

    Assuming it takes two seconds to grow to full length (pretty sure it's less) that puts it at 3,474 km/2s.

    So 1,737 km/s.

    About Mach 5,000 at the lowest end.

    Naruto doesn't react to that at point blank range but he still reacts to it as it is heading right towards him and slams a Rasengan on it so that's pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    Best Reaction Feat would be Naruto reacting to Toneri's Super Laser Sword.

    That thing grows big enough to cut the moon in half.

    Assuming it takes two seconds to grow to full length (pretty sure it's less) that puts it at 3,474 km/2s.

    So 1,737 km/s.

    About Mach 5,000 at the lowest end.

    Naruto doesn't react to that at point blank range but he still reacts to it as it is heading right towards him and slams a Rasengan on it so that's pretty good.
    If true, that's some impressive early to mid DBZ level reaction time.

    What about actual movement speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell's Brigade View Post
    If true, that's some impressive mid to late DB level reaction time.

    What about actual movement speed?
    Fixed. :P

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    No sir, DB is surely not in the thousands of mach territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    No sir, DB is surely not in the thousands of mach territory.
    Look at this way: Tao has shown to have high-hypersonic reaction speed. Let's just say; King Piccolo saga Tien(who has actually shown to be superior to Tao in everyway even back then, and had trained since his fight with Kid Goku) was only just as fast Tao when he fought Piccolos "child"; Drum. Tien was being utterly blitzed stomped by Drum, to the point where Tien couldn't even see the guy move. Then Goku comes in, and takes Drum right out before Drum knew what killed him.

    Then Popo makes Goku look like a snail, and Kami is even faster than Popo.

    Then the final saga of the original Dragonball arrives. Everyone is stronger. Tien himself was in the hundreds of mach as his casual blitzing the high hypersonic Cyborg Tao(who was already high-hypersonic in reaction speed before he even became a Cyborg, and he is supposed to be a lot stronger as a Cyborg than he was a "normal" man). Teen Goku then casually blitzed Tien when they fought.

    Then Goku and Piccolo fight. They are too fast for anyone to see as they cause mayhem. Even Kami; a guy who was the current third strongest guy in Dragonball; is absolutely flabbergasted by the speed and power displayed by Goku and Piccolo as not even he could see them move.

    Pretty sure by then they would be in the thousands of mach range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleric of Hell's Brigade View Post
    What about actual movement speed?
    Vague speedster tier.

    I mean, we know Naruto and Sasuke can travel across a couple of countries in the time it takes Kakashi and the Sage to have a short conversation. Likewise, we see regular ninja crossing distances of some kilometers in a relatively short amount of time during the war and earlier on, but no concrete timeframes.
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