Come up with a Defenders line-up using this formula...

[edpower]

In the "Last Defenders" mini-series a few years back they said a Defenders line-up with a great destiny would come about consisting of the following:

“A master of the occult. An expression of pure, brute force. A water elemental. And, most importantly, a strong presence to lead them"

So the point of this post is to come up with your own line-up with the above formula, BUT...it's gotta be original. The 4 characters can not have appeared all together in a Defenders line-up previously, although it can be close.

So, for instance, you can't do:

Dr. Strange
Hulk
Sub-Mariner
Silver Surfer (as the one to lead them)

but you could do

Dr. Strange
Hulk
Sub-Mariner
Cyclops

Points for originality and "themes", like if I did the Lame Defenders:

Dr. Druid
She-Thing
Eel (from S.U.R.F.)
NFL Superpro

Thanks!

[Oberon]

Scarlet Witch
She-Hulk
Namornita or however that is spelled
Invisible Woman, to lead

[useridgoeshere]

Nico
Hercules
Iceman
Angela

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[Phoenixx9]

Clea
Red She-Hulk
Crystal
Jean Grey (leader)

[Hypestyle]

“A master of the occult. An expression of pure, brute force. A water elemental. And, most importantly, a strong presence to lead them"

Dr. Voodoo, Luke Cage, Namora, Black Panther.

[Kaijudo]

International Edition!

Talisman
Ursa Major
Wave
Captain Britain/Avalon (Brian Braddock)

[JudicatorPrime]

Ok, let's think of a group that no one would envision working together, and then add at least one character from waaaaaaaaay back in Marvel history (Rom comic, circa early 1980s) to keep the writers on their toes and give the creative team a new character to mold and develop. Here goes:

A water elemental
Wave. I like that this mistress of hydrokinesis hails from the Philippines. It's easy to connect her to Sybil and Blue Marvel. If she's not available, Loa and Crystal are my next choices.

An expression of pure, brute force
Kurse. Anyone that is multiple times stronger than Thor easily makes the cut. That Kurse is also sometimes seen as unpredictable and a villain doesn't hurt.

A strong presence to lead them
Blue Marvel. Dr. Brashear is finally in a position where the situation calls for him to lead without deferring to anyone else. The team operates out of his base at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean near Challenger Deep. It's a good thing, too, because his weekly sparring matches with Algrim would probably level entire states were they to occur on land. (Any tsunami risks are curtailed by Wave.)

A master of the occult
Sybil, The Oracle of Atlantis. Who is she? She's the niece of a Dire Wraith High Witch that spent her childhood being infused with their ancient magic. She met Rom and Namor, the latter saving her life by combining her human (and presumably part Dire Wraith) physiology with Atlantean DNA. Sybil's background gives the creative team quite a bit to work with, but I'd pen her as a powerful High Priestess with mastery of both Atlantean and Dire Wraith mysticism. That said, obviously, if I wanted to sell more books, I’d insert Scarlet Witch here, or one of the X-characters (Selene, Illyana Rasputin, Goblin Queen, Spiral, etc.) as the magic user.

[Phoenixx9]

Ok, let's think of a group that no one would envision working together, and then add at least one character from waaaaaaaaay back in Marvel history (Rom comic, circa early 1980s) to keep the writers on their toes and give the creative team a new character to mold and develop. Here goes:

A water elemental
Wave. I like that this mistress of hydrokinesis hails from the Philippines. It's easy to connect her to Sybil and Blue Marvel. If she's not available, Loa and Crystal are my next choices.

An expression of pure, brute force
Kurse. Anyone that is multiple times stronger than Thor easily makes the cut. That Kurse is also sometimes seen as unpredictable and a villain doesn't hurt.

A strong presence to lead them
Blue Marvel. Dr. Brashear is finally in a position where the situation calls for him to lead without deferring to anyone else. The team operates out of his base at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean near Challenger Deep. It's a good thing, too, because his weekly sparring matches with Algrim would probably level entire states were they to occur on land. (Any tsunami risks are curtailed by Wave.)

A master of the occult
Sybil, The Oracle of Atlantis. Who is she? She's the niece of a Dire Wraith High Witch that spent her childhood being infused with their ancient magic. She met Rom and Namor, the latter saving her life by combining her human (and presumably part Dire Wraith) physiology with Atlantean DNA. Sybil's background gives the creative team quite a bit to work with, but I'd pen her as a powerful High Priestess with mastery of both Atlantean and Dire Wraith mysticism. That said, obviously, if I wanted to sell more books, I’d insert Scarlet Witch here, or one of the X-characters (Selene, Illyana Rasputin, Goblin Queen, Spiral, etc.) as the magic user.

I like your inclusion of Kurse. He really is beyond strong.

Oracle is interesting, especially her name Sybil. This is the same as the Shi'ar telepath.

[Thundershot]

Feron (magic)
Hydro-Man (water)
Red She Hulk (power)
Doctor Doom (leader)

[From The Shadows]

Doctor Strange
Cloak
Dagger
Talisman

Like the idea of NC on an Defenders team as well. I think he has the look. The team always had a rather strange/mythical look about it -- classically.

[Riv86672]

A master of the occult - Bats is a ghost w. an enchantment that makes his barks understandable to whoever’s listening. He can go intangible, invisible, and possess the living. That’s pretty good for a dog.

An expression of pure, brute force - Thori is all about brute force. He’s a Hel Hound, and loves battle, is capable of speech, can survive in space, is pyrokinetic, and strong enough to take down Asgardians, Trolls, and even some demons.

A water elemental - Jeff is, well, a land shark. He’s everything you fear about sharks and everything you love about dogs all rolled into one. Still growing, he can already take your arm off w. a bite. Luckily he’s pretty friendly, though. He is of course, a very good swimmer.

And, most importantly, a strong presence to lead them - Cosmo is super experienced at hero-ing and is a veteran of several teams. His mental powers are no joke. Also he’s a space character so fits the Silver Surfer role.

[JudicatorPrime]

I like your inclusion of Kurse. He really is beyond strong.

Oracle is interesting, especially her name Sybil. This is the same as the Shi'ar telepath.

Thanks! I also like the Imperial Guard character, since she's the Saturn Girl from the Legion of Super Heroes analog. It's only fitting that there is more than one sybil or oracle as there were many of them in history and myth. Marvel created the Oracle of Atlantis decades ago, but I guess no one really cared to develop her at all after that. Given her Atlantean and Dire Wraith influences, I think she could be a pretty cool character, if handled properly.

[Phoenixx9]

Thanks! I also like the Imperial Guard character, since she's the Saturn Girl from the Legion of Super Heroes analog. It's only fitting that there is more than one sybil or oracle as there were many of them in history and myth. Marvel created the Oracle of Atlantis decades ago, but I guess no one really cared to develop her at all after that. Given her Atlantean and Dire Wraith influences, I think she could be a pretty cool character, if handled properly.

You are welcome. And all very true. I like the Atlantean stuff and there is so many old characters that they should explore more.

[Oberon]

Thanks! I also like the Imperial Guard character, since she's the Saturn Girl from the Legion of Super Heroes analog. It's only fitting that there is more than one sybil or oracle as there were many of them in history and myth. Marvel created the Oracle of Atlantis decades ago, but I guess no one really cared to develop her at all after that. Given her Atlantean and Dire Wraith influences, I think she could be a pretty cool character, if handled properly.

All of these ideas are fun, but I especially like your mention of

Sybil, the child from the Dire-wraiths story who came to live in Atlantis - - whoa, I thought no one ever remembered her. ~has she appeared anywhere else? ~

I don't remember her being part Wraith, I thought she was the step child of the wraith, but I 'll have to look it up.