Please I want to know why is wolverine the most popular x-men charachter.

**charliehustle415** · 05-26-2021, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by dirtynun

Wait huh? That's it? Really?

oh yeahh bub.

**Doom'nGloom** · 05-26-2021, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by Nobodyworthnoting

"peak masculinity" lmao

I was about to write a long paragraph but this pretty much sums it up.

**Frobisher** · 05-26-2021, 04:00 AM

Wolverine's superpower is that he gets taller the more popular he is. In the late 70s he was like 5' 4" (weirdly I still don't understand metric heights and weights of people, even though metric is Science), but by the time the movies came out he was height of Hugh Jackman (about 5'11"I'd say). When the X-Men join the MCU in several years I project he will be about the height of a Harlem Globetrotter, or The Mountain.

**Gray Lensman** · 05-26-2021, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Frobisher

Wolverine's superpower is that he gets taller the more popular he is. In the late 70s he was like 5' 4" (weirdly I still don't understand metric heights and weights of people, even though metric is Science), but by the time the movies came out he was height of Hugh Jackman (about 5'11"I'd say). When the X-Men join the MCU in several years I project he will be about the height of a Harlem Globetrotter, or The Mountain.

Not to mention the power he stole from Jamie Braddock, which enables Wolverine to be on multiple X-teams, the Avengers, his solo series, and guest spots in other books all at the same time.

**Gray Lensman** · 05-26-2021, 04:21 AM

On a more serious note, as with many other things that become popular, it is difficult to replicate since in many ways, that initial wave of popularity is a product of the place and time it came from. Logan probably wouldn't be quite as big of he started out today - there are more antiheroes to take up space he originally didn't have to overly share, and the comics antihero isn't a breath of fresh air like it once was.

**Purplevit** · 05-26-2021, 04:23 AM

Wolverine power is that he sells books. He is the most popular X-Men and his own franchise.
Wolverine #1 sold more in dollar then HiX-Men #1.

Wolverine 1 - 1 522 638 USD
X-Men 1 -1 276 063 USD

**Killerbee911** · 05-26-2021, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Gray Lensman

On a more serious note, as with many other things that become popular, it is difficult to replicate since in many ways, that initial wave of popularity is a product of the place and time it came from. Logan probably wouldn't be quite as big of he started out today - there are more antiheroes to take up space he originally didn't have to overly share, and the comics antihero isn't a breath of fresh air like it once was.

That is true only Deadpool and Harley Quinn who both add on comedy on to Antihero trope have real broken out. They were several Wolverine types in 90s who have disappeared Ripclaw, Warblade, a bunch of stuff from Liefeld. But Wolverine and guess if you count Batman are the best antihero who can work alongside regular heroes which makes them way more popular than antiheroes who cross the line too much.

I think that there is new model of annoying jerk antihero that could work but nobody has quite put together yet in the big 2, Quire is an example of it but a better example is Bakugo from MHA who has passed the main character in popularity in the fanbase.

**dirtynun** · 05-26-2021, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Purplevit

Wolverine power is that he sells books. He is the most popular X-Men and his own franchise.
Wolverine #1 sold more in dollar then HiX-Men #1.

Wolverine 1 - 1 522 638 USD
X-Men 1 -1 276 063 USD

So he is there to make money that's it.

**Gray Lensman** · 05-26-2021, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by dirtynun

So he is there to make money that's it.

That's what any character is there for. Wolverine, by virtue of being such a popular solo character, was mostly spared the years long effort to undermine the brand and be made as irrelevant as possible that the rest of the X-Men had to endure until recently. The recovery is barely even started, and given the state of comics today, may not be possible until a movie gets made.

**Nazrel** · 05-26-2021, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Killerbee911

Are we talking Most popular X-man aka Most Popular character overall has reach to casual fans or Most popular X-men character aka most popular character within franchise among the people who care about these sets of characters. If you are talking about most popular overall character know to people outside the comic world, Yes Wolverine edges out other characters. If you talking about polling X-men fans which character is their favorite Wolverine will not win, Wolverine is not the most popular X-men character in that sense. And as much people want talk Wolverine with in actual franchise

Who was focal point of the Bendis Run?
Who was focal point of Morrision Run?
Who was focal point of AvX?
Who was focal point X-men vs Inhumans? Yes he was dead
Who was focal point of Uncanny when it came back
Who was big part of PoX/HoX
Who was important of X of Swords
Who is the focal point of the current X-men book?
Who is focal point of upcoming X-Men book?

Yeah Wolverine is going show up go "rawr" in bunch of things which character is actually the focal point in most stories in the recent years. Which character has the sixth most appearance in comic books but never had solo series/limited run of 12 issues. If people want to disagree with fine but for me most popular character and the most popular X-character are different things and being honest if Wolverine only shows up in his book and didn't show up in other X-men books they would be large amount of the fan base who would be happy. Wolverine popularity with in the franchise has gone down. While in the past he could show up 3 or 5 books and nobody would have said anything about it.

The fact the creative teams keep going back to the fallacy (by choice or editorial mandate) that "the original 5 must be the best", does not make them the most popular. It's the whole creatively bankrupt recursion thing that infects comics; he's the default leader, so he keeps being the leader, therefore the focal point.

**sunofdarkchild** · 05-26-2021, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Nazrel

The fact the creative teams keep going back to the fallacy (by choice or editorial mandate) that "the original 5 must be the best", does not make them the most popular. It's the whole creatively bankrupt recursion thing that infects comics; he's the default leader, so he keeps being the leader, therefore the focal point.

Plus so many of those eras that focus on Cyclops tend to be hated by the fans. Only Morrison and Gillen seem to be fondly remembered by the majority.

I'd say Wolverine has gotten more exposure than Cyclops so far in the Hixmen era. He has his own ongoing plus a big part in X-Force, plus the Black, White, and Blood mini, while Cyclops is sometimes the main character of individual stories in X-Men and makes sporadic guest appearances. In X of Swords Wolverine was one of the chosen champions, was the only one to get 2 issues devoted to getting his sword, got a new recurring villain for his Rogue's galley, got several of the best fights and arguably the first real fight in the tournament with Summoner, had his whole thing about killing Saturnyne. Cyclops had his moment of telling the council off and gathering the troops, but for most of the event he was absent and most of the time he was there it was to be Cable's dad. This could change with the relaunched team, but for the last 2 years Wolverine has been way more prominent than Cyclops.

**davetvs** · 05-26-2021, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by Frobisher

He’s white and what teenage boys think they want to grow into. See also: Cable.

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