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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    what about confirmation of the lead x-men editor's support for cia crimes
    If you do something terrible but you’re absolutely certain that you’re the good guys, then it’s alright.

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    He even brings up the “how long does a clone have to be around to be considered their own being?”

    Yes it totally depends on that. Stryfe was cloned from Cable as a child. He’s had his own entire life. Maddie had false memories, sire, but she was around for a few years. Once they become their own person, they should be able to be resurrected. Heck, create new bodies for them if need be.. maybe that’s where chimeras come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agatha's Ghost View Post
    I do not appreciate the way these men discuss Madelyne, as if she were merely a slab of meat. The Phoenix gave her life.
    Maddie is a slab of meat. The Quiet Council has spoken.

    Let’s be frank about her, too. She was insane and evil. And the whole thing with Alex is really creepy, too.

    Let her be dead. The X-Men are better off without that fake walking around.

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    She only went insane after Scott abandoned her and thier child to run off and chase after Jean, then only coming back much later after he was reminded that he had a wife and child that he supposedly loved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    She only went insane after Scott abandoned her and thier child to run off and chase after Jean, then only coming back much later after he was reminded that he had a wife and child that he supposedly loved...
    No, that's not when she went insane. She was perfectly sane. She only went insane after she got forced through trauma after trauma with the X-Men (Adversary, Reavers, Genoshans).

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    Madelyne never went insane. She sold her soul to Sym, which means she had one to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agatha's Ghost View Post
    Madelyne never went insane. She sold her soul to Sym, which means she had one to begin with.
    Her soul was a piece of Jean Grey's soul, so she neer had her own soul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian B View Post
    Let’s be frank about her, too. She was insane and evil. And the whole thing with Alex is really creepy, too.

    Let her be dead. The X-Men are better off without that fake walking around.
    There's a whole lotta people on Krakoa who are insane and evil that they keep resurrecting even when the place would be much better off without them - how many times have they brought Empath back by now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian B View Post
    Maddie is a slab of meat. The Quiet Council has spoken.

    Let’s be frank about her, too. She was insane and evil. And the whole thing with Alex is really creepy, too.

    Let her be dead. The X-Men are better off without that fake walking around.
    Didn't sinister help run a consontrstion camp for the nazi ? That trumps anything Maddy did and hes on the council. And the council is full of idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    Her soul was a piece of Jean Grey's soul, so she neer had her own soul
    Nobody can “own” a soul, but a lying demon. It is not property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agatha's Ghost View Post
    Nobody can “own” a soul, but a lying demon. It is not property.
    Well it is Jean's soul, not Maddie.

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    I didn't really like the way they talked about Madelyne either. Trying to imply that Zeb Wells' anticlimactic story is the reason for her current popularity? The arrogance of it all.

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    Poor Maddie. I'm guessing even the Hickman retcons couldn't get the Uncanny crew to bother showing up at her funeral, lol.

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    I think it's pretty clear there's still something to happen with Maddie...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanityOrMadness View Post
    There's a whole lotta people on Krakoa who are insane and evil that they keep resurrecting even when the place would be much better off without them - how many times have they brought Empath back by now?
    The same Empath who was pretty much fine until Madelyne wrecked his mind?

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