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    Quote Originally Posted by MyriVerse View Post
    Only 6 or so of the royal family survived the culling, and the vast majority of the Nuhumans were not in Attilan at the time.
    They didnít die. They were placed in stasis tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    They didnít die. They were placed in stasis tubes.
    That then got blown up.

    Marvel was no more subtle in DoI then they were this month when they punted the Iron Fist legacy into cold storage

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliasmachado View Post
    I find this comparison so funny. The space fire chicken would come to Earth with or without the X-Men. It wasn't Cyclops, Magneto or Professor X who released the Phoenix Force into Earth's atmosphere. And the Phoenix Force wasn't killing any humans or inhumans, just like a certain mist was killing mutants.
    I don't quite care if they called it or not, as it's irrelevant to fact they knew the Phoenix was destroying planets, they knew it was coming to Earth and they wanted to risk the entire lives of everyone, just to play with other people's lives and activate an extra gene, they didn't even try taking precautions they just wanted the Phoenix to come and hope for the best.
    The whole time when questioned about what if the Phoenix destroys Earth their response is just "But what if it doesn't though?".
    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Of coruse the X-men cared. If life on Earth ended, then that would be the end of them as well. Thats now what the goal was by embracing the Phoenix. It was to breed more life and reverse what was done with the deciMation
    It didn't make new life, all it did was activate the X-Gene of people who were already around which frankly is just not worth almost incinerating the entire planet.

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    The Phoenix Force was summoned by Wandas spell in AvX. Well the Avengers had ample opportunity to stop the Phoenix Force in its tracks before reaching Earth. It's not like the X-Men went to space to sabotage their plan. The Avengers failed to stop it. It arrived on the moon and Stark split it then forced it into 5 X-Men. That's life. It's not easy to stop a force of nature. Man can try and fail and that is what happened.

    AvX isn't a great comparison in the slightest.

    The PF came to Earth because of an Avenger. Are we trying to blame them failing to stop it in space on the X-Men?

    In contrast the Inhumans attempted to stop the X-Men when they tried to stop the cloud

    Emma may have invited the Inhumans they also may havr declined
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    That's exactly what I was talking about.
    Every terrible thing the X-Men either gets excused or blamed on someone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metro View Post
    I don't quite care if they called it or not, as it's irrelevant to fact they knew the Phoenix was destroying planets, they knew it was coming to Earth and they wanted to risk the entire lives of everyone, just to play with other people's lives and activate an extra gene, they didn't even try taking precautions they just wanted the Phoenix to come and hope for the best.
    The whole time when questioned about what if the Phoenix destroys Earth their response is just "But what if it doesn't though?".


    It didn't make new life, all it did was activate the X-Gene of people who were already around which frankly is just not worth almost incinerating the entire planet.
    Of course you don't care, why would a hater care?
    But everything you said doesn't change the FACT that the terrigen mist was KILLING mutants, while the Phoenix Force (which was summoned thanks to Wanda's decimation) didn't deliberately kill any humans.
    Mutants were struggling to survive against a deadly cloud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metro View Post
    That's exactly what I was talking about.
    Every terrible thing the X-Men either gets excused or blamed on someone else
    No, AvX and IvX are not their fault. Not because of the passions and prejudice of the fans on the board but because of the actual events in the comics.

    AvX - No mutant summoned the Phoenix, no mutant attacked and split it, the Phoenix 5 were possessed by a cosmic entity that influenced their actions. Also, at the end, the mutants were right. The phoenix did come, it didn't destroy the Earth, mutants were repowered, and it did come down to training Hope.

    IvX - Can anyone here legitimately try and defend the Inhumans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisinith View Post
    IvX - Can anyone here legitimately try and defend the Inhumans?
    Only in the sense that by the time IvX rolled around the Inhumans had been so gutted story/theme/lore wise that they were faux!mutants wearing the Inhumans’ skins

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliasmachado View Post
    Of course you don't care, why would a hater care?
    But everything you said doesn't change the FACT that the terrigen mist was KILLING mutants, while the Phoenix Force (which was summoned thanks to Wanda's decimation) didn't deliberately kill any humans.
    Mutants were struggling to survive against a deadly cloud.
    You are ignoring the fact that Phoenix also did take life. So life for Mutant powers = ok, life for Inhuman powers = bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king of hybrids View Post
    That then got blown up.

    Marvel was no more subtle in DoI then they were this month when they punted the Iron Fist legacy into cold storage
    I saw this and had to go read what you mean. I feel so sorry for Iron Fist fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    You're victim shaming. The fact is that mutants were being massacred by a poisonous timebomb and you are faulting them for wanting to destroy the source of their killing to end the suffering





    Medusa sat on her throne while the X-men watched their mutant children die. Again a whole year in comic time went by with her allowing this under her watch
    You are ignoring the fact that they fought the Avengers earlier on because the Phoenix was destroying planets, while the Avengers wanted to find a way where it didn't reach earth the X-men fought them on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noek View Post
    You are ignoring the fact that Phoenix also did take life. So life for Mutant powers = ok, life for Inhuman powers = bad.
    And you're ignoring that it wasn't the mutants who created the Phoenix, or released her into space, or called her here. She came because of Decimation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noek View Post
    You are ignoring the fact that Phoenix also did take life. So life for Mutant powers = ok, life for Inhuman powers = bad.
    I know Aaron has made a joke of the Phoenix in his Avengers run, but the Phoenix's purpose is to take life. Cosmic force =/= environmental disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noek View Post
    You are ignoring the fact that they fought the Avengers earlier on because the Phoenix was destroying planets, while the Avengers wanted to find a way where it didn't reach earth the X-men fought them on this.
    And you still ignore that when the Phoenix arrived on Earth it didn't kill any human or inhuman like terrigen clouds killed mutants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noek View Post
    You are ignoring the fact that Phoenix also did take life. So life for Mutant powers = ok, life for Inhuman powers = bad.
    Obtusion won't make lies like this any more right.
    The Krakoans are EEEvil!

    THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

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